4 Play Submitted Reviews The following submitted reader reviews are opinions expressed by the reader, and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of this website or Z Bone. Furthermore, Z Bone reserves the right to redact or delete any submitted reviews at any time. [Submit Review] [All Club Detail] Date: 11/19/2009 5:51pm Name: jet219us (129) Subject: vivica I got dances from her at SRI, more than 3-4 times. She was frisky at first, but became pretty compliant as time went by. As a guy whose broke COMPLETELY past NFZ with her countless times, she has some of the best boobs I have ever dealt with in my entire life. I literally would get excited just when she would unclip her bra before the dance started. I'd never seen tits that big on a girl this small and petite, and hot. Date: 11/19/2009 4:08pm Name: markydesade (34) Subject: Candy I have found her dances to be quite enjoyable, but I agree with you about the makeup. The first time I saw her up close I thought she had just come from clown school. Good news about Kaylee... Date: 11/19/2009 1:57am Name: jintsyboy (60) Subject: Candy? Really? Huh...different strokes, I guess. That makeup is not my thing, but hey, to each his own. I have no idea what her dances are like. I'm always surprised at how busy she is. Guess she's doing something right. Kaylee has been back in town for a bit. Red hot 19-year-old who really reminds me of a Florida stripper. Not to be confused with Kylie, the teeny-tiny Asian chick. Some good news, especially for Taos. The Asian bouncer with the really bad attitude (and ridiculous hair) is gone. Don't know the circumstances, just know it's a little more relaxing in the dance areas. They're still on the subtle lookout, but that dude would walk right up to you and watch. Especially if you were dancing with the gals he liked. Management is now made up of the most capable and reasonable former bouncers. Good guys, who understand that it's about the girls. A more pleasant experience than it used to be. Some girls have been MIA for some time though. Most notably the Russian triumvirate of Maya, Adrianna and Alexandra. They are missed! And Hennessy is apparently only putting in an appearance at DVNH these days. A bummer for this PL! Peaches still rocks my world during the day, and Carmen, Allie and Trinity are always dependable night choices. But the Slav accents and perfect asses are def missed! <sigh> Date: 11/17/2009 6:31pm Name: michaelanders (1) Subject: candy How are her dances?? She looks hot.. Date: 11/17/2009 12:36am Name: minnow (76) Subject: Last 3 Posts Yes, I've seen Jade recently, on a mid-late week night. I have found that dialing club ph#, and pressing 3 prompt gives a very accurate rundown on dancers working that day or night shift. I wish speaker would slow down and speak more clearly at times. Last post illustrates one of the downsides of visiting club on peak nights whereby club caters more to couples/groups wanting a reserved table. This leaves single club visitor the choice of being a standee, or trying to squeak into a stageside seat. One reason why I plan my peak night visits at this club (or most any worthwhile club) to get in early, and leave early. Date: 11/14/2009 9:18am Name: Dragula (41) Subject: Club Practices I went to this club last night ,Nov 13 and a week ago Nov 7 in the evening. I went early to make sure i got a table and someplace to sit. And both times I did and was enjoying the show. Until i was asked to move and find another place to sit because the place I was at for the past hour and a half instintly became reserved for someone else. So by that time, the club was full and was left with no choice but to stand. I stopped going to this club back in January '09 because of this very same reason. I posted my complaint on here and I got an apology from the club but it seems like this practice has not change a bit after less then one year. They didnt even make it up by finding me a new place to sit that was equal to where i was or a free drink or a pass for my next visit or anything. They just left me standing. Doesnt seem like this club was sorry at all!! Last time, i didnt report this to the BBB because i did get an apology from the club but now...things are differant. Time to make that call. Date: 11/11/2009 5:30pm Name: abc123 (1) Subject: Jade Any info on jade? still work here and time and date? Date: 11/5/2009 5:31pm Name: Brbonz (93) Subject: Nadine Does anyone know if Nadine still works there. Date: 10/28/2009 11:44am Name: Yes_you_can (3) Subject: Want more lap dances? Make money for more lap dances! Don't miss out on this fantastic opportunity to get in on the ground floor of something predicted grow as fast and big as Google or Facebook. It's fun! It's free! It saves you money! It pays you money! It can't get better than this! Just go to: http://ppl.blastoffnetwork.com/jshaddad Sign up for your own Blastoff.com website. It's FREEEE! Date: 10/26/2009 7:19pm Name: sgtarmy (68) Subject: Jintsyboy/Vivica. Hey Jintsyboy, I first met Vivica earlier this year at the Spearmint Rhino(COI)Club. I had a dance with her (Nude mind you) and it was very low mileage. No touching whatsoever. I was very disappointed. I'm not sure if you are familiar with Spearmint Rhino dances. Most girls allow full contact if you know what I mean. She is very gorgeous like you said but no mileage at all. So I highly doubt that she just didn't like you. I will not get a dance with her again. Yes she is gorgeous and has a great body but I will spend my hard earned money on others who offer more mileage. Happy Lapping Date: 10/26/2009 5:52pm Name: alan35 (23) Subject: answer fire in the hole! the u go in with a flashlight and a 45. think of forest gump, or charlie sheen in platoon! LOL Date: 10/26/2009 4:35pm Name: poop69 (4) Subject: joke how? Date: 10/26/2009 10:40am Name: alan35 (22) Subject: a joke how do u check a vietnamese girl for an std? Date: 10/26/2009 10:24am Name: Newbie_Dave (2) Subject: Tatiana She's been working there off and on for a long while, dayshift only I think. She has really long brown hair, and natural C's/D's. Although I like a bit of variety when I stop by the club, she's def one of the girls I make sure to dance with. Hot dance with no hustle. Has any one stopped in Wed dayshift? How is it? Date: 10/26/2009 9:00am Name: BBWLover (580) Subject: sgtarmy/jintsyboy/Vivica Are you guys talking about the same girl? I understand YMMV but not a complete 180 degrees?LOL. Is she a HOT babe or a HOT Potato no one wants to touch,? BBBBer Date: 10/26/2009 7:56am Name: jintsyboy (59) Subject: Vivica/Tatiana I've said it before, Vivica might be one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. A Catherine Zeta-Jones double with a shapelier (and almost perfect) ass. Problem for me is her dances. I got a dance from her the second I saw her and her entire body was a NFZ (hands behind me) and not a very good grind. BUT, that was her first night. Anyone know if that has changed? I'd love to get reacquainted with her if she's become friendlier. Of course, there does exist the possibility that she just didn't like me... Who is Tatiana? Date: 10/25/2009 5:31pm Name: Newbie_Dave (1) Subject: Fri dayshift Stopped in this Friday dayshift. Lots of new faces.. most are pretty hot. Maybe because this was dayshift, but girls seem to be more willing to hold a conversation and not run to much of a "hustle". Also, danced with Tatiana, guess she's been gone for some time now. Real sensual lady! Date: 10/24/2009 8:34pm Name: sgtarmy (67) Subject: Vivica. Hey guys, has anyone seen Vivica lately at the club? Gorgeous babe! So very hot too. OMG!!! Date: 10/20/2009 10:53pm Name: markydesade (30) Subject: peterfreak.... Have not seen Hunter since before Labor Day. Don't think she dances her anymore... Date: 10/19/2009 7:47pm Name: Spawn (782) Subject: Club Payouts VIP Showgirls in North Hollywood has a 70% Dancer 30% House payout! 60 - 40 aint nuttin special! Xposed has a 50 - 50 payout! YIKES!!! Date: 10/19/2009 5:14pm Name: jintsyboy (58) Subject: Riley Chase Just checked out some of her greatest hits online. Yup. That's her. She's a brunette now. Date: 10/18/2009 7:05pm Name: Truthful (35) Subject: Riley Chase peterfreak: "I happened to be in earlier this week and notice that riley is th same girl as the porn star riley chase. I'm glad to see that she's no longer blonde since its not so much her color." What color is her hair now, pf? She was a hot blonde, IMO... http://www.eskimotube.com/show.php?searc... Date: 10/17/2009 1:44pm Name: peterfreak (New) Subject: new I happened to be in earlier this week and notice that riley is th same girl as the porn star riley chase. I'm glad to see that she's no longer blonde since its not so much her color. I see that some post talks about her voice , it is a little freakish. It looks like she had a nose job but not too much of a difference . Can anyone tell me hunters schedule now days? Date: 10/14/2009 3:06pm Name: Brbonz (83) Subject: Nadine Jintstboy, she is too skinny. Seems to have had a kid recently. Even tho she's skinny, there's some flap on the stomach and loose skin in her ass. Stretch marks on the small natural boobs. Dances were ok not hot. Beautiful face. Date: 10/14/2009 8:54am Name: BBWLover (541) Subject: dancers payout Big chain like DJVU is a good gage for industry standard. It is 60% to dancer and 40% to house. Independent operator like SJpomona is even more generous. $10 lap dance all goes to dancer but the house charge $25 a shift. On $75 VIP $50 to dancer $25 to house. Date: 10/14/2009 2:13am Name: empelo (328) Subject: payout jintsyboy wrote: "16 to dancer, 9 to club. Not sure what it is upstairs." Indeed, 4Play has been known for relatively low payouts, closer to 25% than the 50% "industry standard." Date: 10/13/2009 11:20pm Name: markydesade (28) Subject: candy Met her for the first time this weekend. Saw her up on stage and her body looked amazing but unfortunately didnt see her on the floor at all for the rest of the night. And thanks for the info re: dancer payouts, jintsy.. Date: 10/13/2009 8:01pm Name: jintsyboy (57) Subject: Payout and Nadine 16 to dancer, 9 to club. Not sure what it is upstairs. Yes, Nadine is her name. Really gorgeous. Just a bit too skinny for me. How are the dances with her? Date: 10/12/2009 11:23pm Name: markydesade (27) Subject: dancer payout Curious as to what the dancer payout is here. That is, for a $25 dance in the back room, what percentage do the dancers keep? Date: 10/12/2009 8:18am Name: Brbonz (79) Subject: Tall Russian The one knock-out surprise of the month is, Nadine. Saw her on Tuesday daytime. Tall and lanky with long straight brown hair, natural breast with a super beautiful face. Will be going back to see her this week. Date: 10/11/2009 8:20pm Name: jintsyboy (56) Subject: Nope... ...you are describing another new girl whose name I can't recall. She is really beautiful if a little too thin for me. Short dark hair and blue eyes. If you like 'em tall and waify she's your gal. I think her name might be Chase. No, Riley is not nearly as attractive and while not thick in the least, she does have a real body as opposed to Chase (or whatever her name is). Hennesy was in Friday night, thank god. This PL needed that after the drive home from Angels Stadium...the words "Boston Sucks" still ringing in my ears. Might have to go back tonite after Papelbon's horrendous choke. Ah well. At least the Giants are 5-0 and I'm 4-1 and in first place in my FFL. Jeez, how many different ways can I be a PL?! Go Angels, crush the fucking Yankees! Date: 10/9/2009 9:54pm Name: markydesade (25) Subject: maya was she a tall brunette (short hair), smallish (but nice) boobs? looked like a model.. she was fun. cant remember the last time i saw her and she doesnt respond to her email address. shame about hunter. at least jersey is still there. Date: 10/8/2009 10:56pm Name: jintsyboy (55) Subject: Been awhile... ...but I was back at the 4P Ranch last night for like the fourth time in the last month (which is a major reduction is my appearance rate). None of the girls I usually dance with were there, so I took a couple with Alexandria. Not bad, not great. Just a decent grind from a beautiful Russian. Interesting how the Russians who have the rep of being the biggest hustlers are always the most focused on you. The really bad news is that one of my all-time favorite dancers, Adrianna, a Russian 10 with the best attitude maybe in the whole joint, has left the business. I'm distraught. Also, I haven't seen Maya in forever. The Russians are leaving! The Russians are leaving! Management hasn't heard from Hunter in a while, so my guess is she's moved on or out. And no Hennessy or Kira last night. Ah well. Saved some dough. Oh, new girl named Riley. Brunette. Freakish voice. Weirdish face. Killer body. Someone dance with her, please? I can't get past the voice, bu I'd love to know what she's like. Date: 10/8/2009 3:07am Name: Playerhater (1) Subject: "Hustlers" I noticed in the past few months the girls that are newly hired are pretty immature and quite frankly, don't really fit the 4play standards. I suppose there will always be the ones who think they are hotter than the others and will charge double for dances. As a customer I don't think this is a good strategy because if I feel locked into something I more than likely won't buy more. I think it shows a lack of confidence on their part. With that being said, the greatest hustlers will make you feel like you're not being hustled. A lot of these girls are beginning to give the club a bad name (e.g. Isabelle and Megan). In response to the recent post, I haven't seen Hunter but she is a really nice girl and I hope she comes back soon. Date: 10/7/2009 7:57pm Name: markydesade (24) Subject: Hunter Has anyone seen her here recently? Her name hasn't been listed on the schedule for weeks and the last (and only) time I saw her was right before Labor Day.. Date: 10/5/2009 11:16am Name: TaosHum (354) Subject: LOL! I swear to God... is this the same person with a new alias? Oh... now it's "civilized"... pfft! I mean, really, they accept credit cards to pay for a fucking meal they served on "real plates" with silverware??? Wow, dude... big time, big time... How do you not get asked for a tip? Do you give them a $20 before the dance? Do you hand them your credit card and tell them to charge "what's fair"? Do you even get dances? Comical... in a very sad way... next time, could you tell us about the decor? Also, tell us what designers the girls are wearing because as you know, dudes are really concerned about everything EXCEPT actually getting a good dance... the most important things to a dude are: The ambiance. The interiors. Talking to the managers and bouncers and making sure they are "swell" guys. The food. Oh yes, most importantly, MONEY IS NO OBJECT when you're talking about being in the company of an "upscale" woman. You can ONLY find an "upscale" woman at 4Play, you won't find an "upscale" woman at any other club, only here. Date: 10/3/2009 5:33pm Name: Mr_Black (1) Subject: player hater/johnny regular In response to player hater, I danced with isabel and was very disappoointed! NOt only did she not stop trying to upsell me but had the balls to demand, not ask, for a tip after talking the whole time trying to get me to go upstairs for all of the songs!!! I get it, but don't agree with it! Completely ruined my whole experience....if I want to pay to get a dance, I should get that.... And johnny regular....I agree with you on everything, but, its a double edged sword...I'm sure guys come in and treat the girls like sh*t, but I have no doubt that cool guys come in and girls treat them like sh*t!!!! (See paragraph above) There is no doubt there are hot girls here, but most seem like they can just do or say whatever they want....thanks, but no thanks. Attitude Date: 10/1/2009 5:41pm Name: CAPI (11) Subject: adultcon adultcon after part at the rio Date: 9/25/2009 8:13pm Name: JohnnyRegular (1) Subject: Girls, girls, girls ! Went last night and noticed how many more professionals or regulars come on Thursdays ! On the weekends I see mostly kids and club goers hang out and spend little to "no" money ! I asked a couple of girls and they confirmed that they go "upstairs" a lot more on Thursdays ! Probably the most requested girls I've seen go to either the side room or upstairs were Des, Isabelle, Meagan and a couple of others whose names elude me now - does that mean they give the "best" dances ? Would love to get other peoples opinion on that one? For my money, the "hottest" looking is that Des chick followed by Isabelle, Meagan and Vivica (a little chunky)! The nicest ones seem to be Jade and Kyra (?), the ladder has an amazing Pole routine. Overall, I find the girls much hotter at 4Play than at Plan B and I actually think the food is worth paying for at 4Play (only $10). All in all, a very pleasant experience for me, especially on a week night. Club Dancers Attitude Nasty Factor Date: 9/20/2009 11:58pm Name: JohnnyRegular (New) Subject: Here is how I see it ! First time poster, as well as first time reader ! I find it rather amusing how some here chose to use this message board to "vent" their frustrations with their own social or love life and conveniently project it unto the girls of 4Play or any other Exotic Dance Club in the area. The last time I checked, any and all clubs still invited citizens to come in and clearly displayed the costs involved, either to enter their establishments or their various VIP areas - NO ONE was EVER forced to pay their advertised prices ! Strip clubs, in my opinion, are there to allow men (or women)to be entertained by naked or semi-naked performers who are compensated for this privilege. They are there to "make money" and as much money as they possible can, like any other sales person in any other sales position ! While it is "our" money that we are spending, think for just a moment about what a dancer chooses to endure - rudeness, condescending demeanor, bad breath, bad body odor, unwarranted physical advances, solicitations and worst of all REJECTION ! Not as easy as it looks, don't you think ? I appreciate what a stripper does for "us" men (again, also for women)and IF I chose to pay them their "fee", I do so gladly, but only if I feel I was treated the way I expected to be treated. Their job would be a whole lot easier if men appreciated them a little more, in general, and maybe, just maybe their attitude towards men would be a whole lot friendlier ! Remember, the girls didn't ask YOU to come there, YOU chose to visit THEM ! Treat them as if you are privileged to be there, not as if you are entitled ! I, for one, get much much better service, because I chose to treat them well ! I'm just saying.... Club Dancers Attitude Nasty Factor Date: 9/19/2009 1:43am Name: HULK (18) Subject: When does ??!!?! When does Hennessey Work? Date: 9/16/2009 10:43pm Name: paigespick (11) Subject: isabel et al she's okay. she's hot, but a little mechanical. Nothing crazy really. I heard britney was on roll-call today. Is this the same britney that use to dance a few months ago. The one that wore the 'sex' chocker? Date: 9/16/2009 9:57pm Name: Playerhater (New) Subject: Isabelle I had quite the experience with a beautiful girl named Isabelle for a very lower price. She's one of the newer dancers. Has anyone had an experience with her? She's good looking, but a bit tacky for my taste. Not sure if I would go back for her. Club Dancers Attitude Nasty Factor Date: 9/16/2009 9:37pm Name: osito27 (4)