as regulars tend to be big ballers who have seen them on many occassions. Many of whom like starting off in the VIP room rather than starting off in some Lame $20 dance. who often spends on her ASS. She doesn't want some other dancer cutting in on her action and stealing her REGular away from her.
LouASS said:
Don't bother getting a waitress involved if she is sitting with another customer. She will see You as an even BIGGER PATHETIC LOSER for doing this rather than steping up to the plate & do it yourself.
sal_acious said:
LouASS said:
Don't bother getting a waitress involved if she is sitting with another customer. She will see You as an even BIGGER PATHETIC LOSER for doing this rather than steping up to the plate & do it yourself.
You're damn Right Louis!
I second that one. Get off of your sad little lonely ass and go get some of what you want. If you accomplish nothing else at least you can get the idiot who is taking up all of her time to waste a little more money.
Its also not a bad idea to grab someone else and parade her past the girl you first wanted. Let her worry about losing a customer. Actually she might. Ive had some great dances while waiting for faves.
Benn said:
Get off of your sad little lonely ass and go get some of what you want. Its also not a bad idea to grab someone else and parade her past the girl you first wanted. Let her worry about losing a customer. .
That's a Great Idea! I think I'll do that next time. Proud of you BENN!
another old post butt i can't believe what happened last week at club (KO); i was talking to my customer/regular and this guy straight up just comes and interrupts us!!!! Of course my custie was like WTF?? even i couldn't believe that he did that! wanted a dance; my regular said it's ok just give him a dance since we gonna be in VIP for few hrs....so i go give the dude a dance;
another time, i'm sitting n talking w/ another regular after we did vip, and group of guys just comes to our table and start talkin to me etc like my regular wasn't even there! ya idk...~
I get guys approaching dancer's when they are sitting w/ me all the damn time, and it gets really old after awhile. In the beginning I used to go batshit on the guy, but now I let it fall onto the dancer, to see what she'll do and how she will handle it. I expect her to at least ask me if it's ok before she goes off to give someone else a dance, unless we've already danced and are just chatting at the table. The majority of the time they will make sure that it's OK with me first, but there have been a few times where they just left without saying anything, I guess assuming that I'll be sitting there waiting for them to come back. Needless to say if they do come back to my table afterwards I'll brush them off just as they did to me. It's cut throat out there and any dancer dumb enough to piss off a paying customer by doing something like that shouldn't be surprised at the outcome.
LouASS said:
It's their JOB to come to you, Not the other way around. Sure I have done it before a few times in asking , But not when she is talking to another customer at the time which most likely could be a regular of hers. Some dancers find this Rude as you are stoping them from making
OMG that what happened to meee!!! i was sittin w my best reg., and this big bachelor party was across from us; and waitress straight out said to me "that guy wants u to go over to him" or some shit...blah blah so
anyways, so i had few regulars come see me in one night; i was sitting kickin it w/ one of my good regulars and after getting drinks headed to a table...soon as i sat down i saw my other regular he was like waving to me; i told my first guy to let me just say hi to him real quick and excused myself (he is very kind and isn't a jerkwad) and when i told my second regular hi! etc then he told me i should go back to my first guy since i already w him first and to do my thing first. Of course!! Sooo i go back to my first lovely and we chat lil more then offff to vip!~
then my 2nd lovely.....cont'd!!~
This thread blows my mind. All of the drama: "be a man" "ask a waitress" "what do I do?" -- holy crap, it reads like "Bad Night at My First High School Dance." Whatever happened to chillin' and having fun? When did going to a strip club get so damned serious? Y'all need to lighten up. If a girl you want is sitting with another guy, ASK ANOTHER GIRL. This isn't speed dating. It's a friggin' 2-minute dance. All these weird rules and posturing are damned ridiculous.
Point 1: For all those saying, "Be a man": If you were a Man, you wouldn't be in a strip club in the first place. Strip clubs are for males with more money than game. A "baller" isn't the guy holding a dancer hostage and making it rain in a club. A REAL baller is the guy who gets the same action from "civilian" women for free.
Paying to be a baller makes you automatically a non-baller. You are just a lame-ass wanna be. It's like buying a Lakers jersey and pretending you are Kobe.
Point 2: Regulars are bad for business and the club owners need to put a lid on that shit. (And when I say "regular," I am not talking about the guys who come in and drop $1000s on many dancers, I am talking about the guy who comes in just to see one dancer, over and over and over.)
Yes, any one regular can *appear* to be good for any one dancer. As several have pointed out, dancers make a good percentage of their income from a small number of regulars. However, this is failing Business 101: You want to diversify your income sources to reduce risk. Just like a stock portfolio, no regular should take more than 8-10% of your income... Less if you don't feel you can handle losing 8-10% of your income suddenly. Having a heavy regular is like putting all your money into one stock. Dumb.
For the club, a lot of regulars can seem like a good thing, but it can be a double-edged sword. Regulars lock down your best money-makers, the girls with great personality who know how to entertain. The regulars hold them hostage, and prevent them from making the larger percentage of your customers happy repeaters. The customer comes into your club, and if all the good girls have regulars, your entire new customer base is exposed only to girls who don't have a clue. The new customer gets frustrated, approaches a girl with a regular, who reject him, and he doesn't come back to your club.
The regular, if he ever falls out with the dancer (make that WHEN), is probably going to leave your club out of awkwardness. Regulars, again, are not ballers. They are sensitive wusses who have to pay for play. They get butt-hurt when the dancers don't treat them a certain way. Most regulars are probably "on the spectrum" - they don't know how to relate to women in the outside world, and they congratulate themselves that they have a "true friendship" with a hot, nympho-like stripper who "really likes" them and "gets them" in ways that other women don't.
If I were an owner, I would make a rule that a dancer cannot sit with a customer for more than X minutes, and then they have to get up and circulate, and cannot sit with that customer again for Y more minutes. (Say 30 minutes/15 minutes.) An exception could be granted if the club were slow, or you could just lengthen X and shorten Y.
I remember the days when dancers called the shots in the club, when dancers managed the regulars rather than the other way around. This new way sounds like the regulars are running the game, and everyone is losing: management caters to them, dancers fear losing them, and other customers defer to them.
No good dancer (or club) should be afraid of losing a regular; they should have the confidence to know that every potential customer is the next regular. I guess this is what happens when you have too many clubs in a down economy.
sax "incredulous" beat
ya well said saxxxx! i laughed when u said "hold dancer hostage" that soooo funny!!!!~
and u are right...never seeen a baller yet; and i recently met this dude for first time at KO few weeks ago, and then he came to monarchs to see me (i guess he saw/sees my posts on zbone) anyways after he got ONE vip w/ me he demanding that i talk to him only and go out w/ him; or else i gonna lose him as a good custie!! i was like ahm ok buddy...if you dropped/spent let's say few G's on me or somethin then maybe i consider..but after only spending $150 or so??? ya wateves!!~
I've interrupted by accident. You learn to watch what you're saying at these places... I asked the waitress, who has always been really friendly, "hey, is so and so here tonight?" because I hadn't seen her. She goes, "oh! I'll go get her for you!" I'm like... nooooo... but she goes running off - about 2 rows in front of me to the left and I realized the reason I hadn't seen her was she was sitting with someone with her back to me. So then it was like a slow motion trainwreck, the waitress leans in, the dancer looks back at me... and I'm just like... hey... LOL! Luckily she knew me from before and that I wasn't pushing for a dance that very moment... but yeah... kinda awkward there for a moment...
This thread is kind of amusing. Sax is right, some take this way too seriously. I always thought of SC's as an adult Disneyland. If you keep things light and happy you will very rarely get the blues or have issues. Now a few dancers have had issues with each other and sometimes with some crazy guys that mistake this environment for "real life." If I start to feel anxious that means the experience is no longer fun so I leave. I don't go into SC's looking for friendship or a relationship. It's just for fun. Sure, if you come to a place often you can be recognized and have a cordial liasion with folks but for the most part this world is a refuge from the everyday grind. It should be drama-free. Yes, there are exceptions to every situation, but on the whole, you can control your level of happiness. And isn't that the point anyway?
cool cov said:
Sure, if you come to a place often you can be recognized and have a cordial liasion with folks but for the most part this world is a refuge from the everyday grind.
LOL. The SC world should be a refuge for getting grinded.
cutiebootietiff said:
LouASS said:
It's their JOB to come to you, Not the other way around. Sure I have done it before a few times in asking , But not when she is talking to another customer at the time which most likely could be a regular of hers. Some dancers find this Rude as you are stoping them from making
OMG that what happened to meee!!! i was sittin w my best reg., and this big bachelor party was across from us; and waitress straight out said to me "that guy wants u to go over to him" or some shit...blah blah so
[LouASS]-->cutiebootietiff, I'm not surprised as I'm sure it happens to a lot of you in this business plus I'm sure the guy tip the waitress well
cutiebootietiff said:
anyways, so i had few regulars come see me in one night; i was sitting kickin it w/ one of my good regulars and after getting drinks headed to a table...soon as i sat down i saw my other regular he was like waving to me; i told my first guy to let me just say hi to him real quick and excused myself (he is very kind and isn't a jerkwad) and when i told my second regular hi! etc then he told me i should go back to my first guy since i already w him first and to do my thing first. Of course!! Sooo i go back to my first lovely and we chat lil more then offff to vip!~
then my 2nd lovely.....cont'd!!~
[LouASS]-->Its good to see your regulars are cool enough to allow you to do your thing. It's a Nightmare for me sometimes when I have 2 regulars at the same club and both are battling for my attention &
lopaw said:
I get guys approaching dancer's when they are sitting w/ me all the damn time, and it gets really old after awhile. In the beginning I used to go batshit on the guy, but now I let it fall onto the dancer, to see what she'll do and how she will handle it. I expect her to at least ask me if it's ok before she goes off to give someone else a dance, unless we've already danced and are just chatting at the table. The majority of the time they will make sure that it's OK with me first, but there have been a few times where they just left without saying anything, I guess assuming that I'll be sitting there waiting for them to come back. Needless to say if they do come back to my table afterwards I'll brush them off just as they did to me. It's cut throat out there and any dancer dumb enough to piss off a paying customer by doing something like that shouldn't be surprised at the outcome.
[LouASS]-->Lopaw, I don't blame you. I would have done the same thing. I have had that heppen before with dancers who after just sitting with me a bit (Not showing a bit of interest as I could tell they were BS'ing me) and once they see a new much older White guy inside the club assuming these certain guys are big ballers only after a few minutes of chatting with them try to come back to me(I'm sure they got rejected) (to kiss my ass) as the 2nd choice. FUCK THat, I brushed them off and go with girls who at least treat me as equal to everyone else while I'm in the club. I also didn't like when I was a lot younger how certain dancers would skip the younger dudes in asking for a dance and just asked the older dudes or sit with them. Once they saw how I was spending on the dancers that I did like, There attitudes sure change with me, But I still didn't give them any
Sax said:
This thread blows my mind. All of the drama: "be a man" "ask a waitress" "what do I do?" -- holy crap, it reads like "Bad Night at My First High School Dance." Whatever happened to chillin' and having fun? When did going to a strip club get so damned serious? Y'all need to lighten up. If a girl you want is sitting with another guy, ASK ANOTHER GIRL. This isn't speed dating. It's a friggin' 2-minute dance. All these weird rules and posturing are damned ridiculous.
Point 1: For all those saying, "Be a man": If you were a Man, you wouldn't be in a strip club in the first place. Strip clubs are for males with more money than game. A "baller" isn't the guy holding a dancer hostage and making it rain in a club. A REAL baller is the guy who gets the same action from "civilian" women for free.
Paying to be a baller makes you automatically a non-baller. You are just a lame-ass wanna be. It's like buying a Lakers jersey and pretending you are Kobe.
Point 2: Regulars are bad for business and the club owners need to put a lid on that shit. (And when I say "regular," I am not talking about the guys who come in and drop $1000s on many dancers, I am talking about the guy who comes in just to see one dancer, over and over and over.)
Yes, any one regular can *appear* to be good for any one dancer. As several have pointed out, dancers make a good percentage of their income from a small number of regulars. However, this is failing Business 101: You want to diversify your income sources to reduce risk. Just like a stock portfolio, no regular should take more than 8-10% of your income... Less if you don't feel you can handle losing 8-10% of your income suddenly. Having a heavy regular is like putting all your money into one stock. Dumb.
For the club, a lot of regulars can seem like a good thing, but it can be a double-edged sword. Regulars lock down your best money-makers, the girls with great personality who know how to entertain. The regulars hold them hostage, and prevent them from making the larger percentage of your customers happy repeaters. The customer comes into your club, and if all the good girls have regulars, your entire new customer base is exposed only to girls who don't have a clue. The new customer gets frustrated, approaches a girl with a regular, who reject him, and he doesn't come back to your club.
The regular, if he ever falls out with the dancer (make that WHEN), is probably going to leave your club out of awkwardness. Regulars, again, are not ballers. They are sensitive wusses who have to pay for play. They get butt-hurt when the dancers don't treat them a certain way. Most regulars are probably "on the spectrum" - they don't know how to relate to women in the outside world, and they congratulate themselves that they have a "true friendship" with a hot, nympho-like stripper who "really likes" them and "gets them" in ways that other women don't.
If I were an owner, I would make a rule that a dancer cannot sit with a customer for more than X minutes, and then they have to get up and circulate, and cannot sit with that customer again for Y more minutes. (Say 30 minutes/15 minutes.) An exception could be granted if the club were slow, or you could just lengthen X and shorten Y.
I remember the days when dancers called the shots in the club, when dancers managed the regulars rather than the other way around. This new way sounds like the regulars are running the game, and everyone is losing: management caters to them, dancers fear losing them, and other customers defer to them.
No good dancer (or club) should be afraid of losing a regular; they should have the confidence to know that every potential customer is the next regular. I guess this is what happens when you have too many clubs in a down economy.
sax "incredulous" beat
[L.A.]-->Well said Sax. I can't tell you how many times, I've been on the other side with new dancers who I wanted to dance with only to have a regular ruin' my night in not geting a chance with them. I remember sexy Lexi(ontario hall of fame) apologizing to me the next time I roll in to her club last year on how this certain regular did 7 half hour VIP's and not all in a row they would come back downstairs to sit and chat/drink some sodas for awhile and then go upstairs and do another half hour once again. She told me he sees her as a date rather than a dancer. She said he hog her for about the whole entire 8 hour shift. You do have some guys(regulars) that do go overboard, but I don't see regulars as bad business if they only take about a half hour to an hour of a dancers time especially if she's doing a 5 to 8 hour shift as it gives other guys a chance at her when she is freed up.
