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• cASSandra

  

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  March 23, 2012 11:39 PM PDT

  i am really shy though! so come up and talk to me! or at least make eye contact as i make my rounds around the club so i know you think i'm hot. i hate going up to guys and getting rejected. i usually just wait for my ATF (customers) to show up or stand by the massage chair until someone approaches me.
• Manual

  

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  March 23, 2012 11:41 PM PDT

  lol. i've never seen ATF used for PL's before, but it works both ways.
• cASSandra

  

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  March 23, 2012 11:53 PM PDT

  EVERY girl has a few ATF customers, even if they totally hate their job, there are some guys who come in that just want to make your fucking day. most of mine are actually on this board. but i won't say who! [;
• iliklaps

  

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  March 24, 2012 12:39 AM PDT

  Additude, thats my pet peeve.... fuck that ,,this is why I never get a dances from certain girls that have that megalomania about themselves....
  All the I'm better than crap.... touching my pussy, face, mouth, hair during a dance. this should be an obvious thing not to do. its creepy and unsanitary.What! How bout if we wear gloves?...... Will that suffice....
  probably not....
  Then this crap
  and last. the club may be fun for you, and for me it is sometimes too, but it is still my JOB. don't come in trying to be captain save a hoe telling me i'm "too pretty for this" (i'm too pretty to flip burgers) or i'm "too smart for this" (i'm too smart to pass up making this much money in college) or that you will "take care" of me. i will not go to dinner with you, i will not be your facebook friend. if i give you my number, it's so you can contact me when you want to come into the club so i can make sure i'm there, not because we are going to start dating. i have made friends with customers before, but nothing more than that.
  Well this ought to give you an idea of who and what you're giving your money to all you Captain Save A Hoe's.......
• senior caliente

  

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  March 24, 2012 7:48 AM PDT

  Attitude and Laziness. With every sales job in the world you have to build a rapport with your client. I hate when these girls do the drive by ask for a dance. Most of all when it is slow. I am not going to walk up to a girl and ask her to come over, this isn't a bar where I am trying to pick up on chicks. The dancers job is to build a relationship and try to gain repeat clientele, if you are not willing to sit and chat for 5-10 minutes when the club is empty then you are not making the sale which makes it an easy night for me since I will then only have to tip on the stage shows. I may not get that dance from you but I will most likely either give you $20 for your time or throw you that much on stage. I am not asking for the girl to spend the whole night with me either just 5-10 minutes of good conversation, If they cannot do that they do not deserve my cash. I have heard many times "well I don't like being rejected" screw that shit put on your very tiny, grown up panties and deal with it. It is a sales job you are going to have rejection you just move on and don't let any of it get to you because there is another guy that will spend the $.
• iliklaps

  

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  March 24, 2012 11:00 AM PDT

  Here's another Pet Peeve I have
  The girl on girl shows ...Now these girls are slipping and sliding on the dirty floor ... rubbing themselves up and down the dirty stripper pole, rubbing themselves against one another touching each others dirty hair, dirty mouthes, dirty pussies, dirty legs,dirty thighs, and sexy lips, grinding on one another( Tribbing as real Lesbians call it) right... Now it's a complete turn on if done right.... right! so the show is over I got 4 or 5 hundred bucks in my pocket right... How come they don't offer that same simulated Lesbian act in the VIP section with those same Two Bi sexual Dancers who get to do all those creepy, disgusting, unsanitary ,sexy dirty things to each other... but and I cant put my freshly cleaned showered body shaved body parts face included clean sanitized hands on them when I;m spending my hard earned money while they do those disgusting things to each other ??
  And I'm not talking bout having sex either,,, I'm just saying Why do we the customer have to be demoralized by some young girls non understanding of our horniness ,,,, If we like you we keep coming back... why do we have to be captain save a hoes and creeps and all these other socially disgusting things when all we're trying to do is release some pent up energy.. Weather it be by the girl girl show in the VIP or one on one in the booth or VIP room.... all this OCD is a turn off ... Hope this made sense!
  
  Just say'n
  
• Carmen

  

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  March 24, 2012 1:17 PM PDT

  I think cASSandra stated most of the pet peeves from dancer to customer that there really are...
  
  there are a few pet peeves I have though WITHIN the club though that I could discuss since no one has really gone there yet...
  
  I like to be individual and I work very hard at creating a unique and interesting stage show, a long time ago there was a girl who would go on stage after me and mimic my entire stage set...she danced to the music I would pick (and I don't dance to a lot of top 40- I make a big effort to dance to music no one else does) she would wear similar outfits and try to do my exact stage show...I know that imitation is the highest form of flattery but it would drive me up the wall....
  
  There was once another girl who would follow me around the club, talking to to each customer I had just talked to immediately after I had walked away, and a few times even sat next to a customer I was sitting with and trying to catch his eye... I found that really weird and rude...
  
  One of the DJ's here in memphis would always put me up to the SAME 2 songs...I can't even hear those songs anymore I'm so sick of them..I would specifically ask to dance to rock so I wouldn't go up to those two songs and he would play them anyways...my set list is like 500 songs...he could have picked ANYTHING else...and it didn't make sense because I thought dj's hated when girls did that, but he did it to me...
  
  
  
  
• cASSandra

  

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  March 24, 2012 1:52 PM PDT

  a "captain save a hoe" is a guy that comes into the club trying to find a wife. that's not what we are there for. if i wanted someone to take care of me i would move back in with my parents. i'm a stripper because i like having my own money and being independent. i'm there to be your friend and give you a boner, and you're there to be my friend and give me money. it's not that complicated.
• iliklaps

  

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  March 24, 2012 3:06 PM PDT

  This is the Pet Peeves Forum
  Create a Captain Save A Hoe Forum or state that your Pet Peeve is the Captain Save A Hoe, cause you ain't getting my money..... complicated or not....
  
  Just say'n
• cASSandra

  

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  March 24, 2012 3:28 PM PDT

  don't worry honey, i don't need your chump change.
  
  and i DID make a post saying that it's a pet peeve... and then you replied to it saying this:
  
  "If we like you we keep coming back... why do we have to be captain save a hoes and creeps and all these other socially disgusting things when all we're trying to do is release some pent up energy.. "
  
  which is not what i said at all. i'm not talking about guys that come in and have fun, i'm talking about guys coming in and trying to make me quit my job and go be their girlfriend.
  
  maybe you should learn how to read before getting all sassy under a fake handle on the internet, big man.
• Manual

  

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  March 24, 2012 3:34 PM PDT

  Cassandra: "i'm there to be your friend and give you a boner, and you're there to be my friend and give me money."
  
  I am just that to give you money for a boner. No friendship required. lol!
• cASSandra

  

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  March 24, 2012 3:35 PM PDT

  also, i didn't know having boundaries, means that i "have an attitude." i mean, don't get me wrong, i might have an attitude... but not because i won't let you finger fuck me for 20 dollars.
• Manual

  

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  March 24, 2012 3:52 PM PDT

  I never got the finger fucking thing. I am there to get pleased, not to please. why the fuck would I spend money on pleasuring someone else?
• iliklaps

  

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  March 24, 2012 3:56 PM PDT

  just another Typical youngster( cAssandra ) who can't discern a logical discussion from an insult. And for the others who buy into that attitude( Her's) will realize you've been hood winked....
  Hell I knew a dancer who loved being fingered fuck for 20 bucks... Oh well!
  
  moving forward....
  
  
• cASSandra

  

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  March 24, 2012 4:00 PM PDT

  what's illogical about anything i said? you're the one getting offended over a term that you don't even understand.
• Manual

  

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  March 24, 2012 4:04 PM PDT

  some girls like getting fingered fucked, some girls don't.
  
  some pl's like finger fucking, some don't. I for one dont like it. it does nothing for me.
  
  some pls will get more dances with girls that have boundaries, some only go to girls that give it up.
  
  
  
  
• Stickyicky

  

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  March 24, 2012 4:04 PM PDT

  My pet peeve is VIP / Strip Club boyfriends and massage guy who makes me wait way too long for a dancer because they are too busy working their mouths or hands in attempt to occupy their ATF!s time.
  
  Since no other PL has brought it up so far I think there are a few on this board who may get offended. These are PL's who want to sit and talk with the dancers for 30 mins take them back to VIP or get a few normal dances and then come back to sit and talk to the dancer for another 30 mins about who knows what again and then after about another 30mins leave. I visit a lot during the day and understand it gets slow, but ladies need to learn how to stick in move especially when they see someone unfamiliar because they may be able to add another to their client list. Most of the time the guy doing the talking is some older guy who has more time to kill. I understand the importance of customer service and showing interest in your customer but I know a new guy walking in may be another dance VIP etc. so I often ask the girl if they want to mAke their rounds and come back to see me for another dance later or if they get some downtime. Sometimes they come back right away, or not at all. But if my intentions was not to get another dance in the immediate future, there is no point in monopolizing their time with my petty conversations or compliments. Not to say the girl should just give me the "wanna dance" line because the majority of times I will say no unless you got the ass of the year or it's a busy night shift a know u don't have time to chit chat.
  
  What I am sayin in this long drawn out comment is that PL's new to respect other Pl's by not thinking that when you are in the club the dancer should not circulate beyond your position and the stripper should recognize when a new opportunity is walking in that you should excuse yourself from your VIP boyfriend at least to introduce yourself to a new customer. You may be missing out on more money if you don't.
• Manual

  

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  March 24, 2012 4:08 PM PDT

  @sticky: yup, I agree. fuckoing and getting fuckoed.
• cASSandra

  

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  March 24, 2012 4:12 PM PDT

  @Stickyicky i am guilty of this! i will even sit with guys that aren't spending money if they are easy to talk to. anyone who has met me/danced with me before knows i have NO game... so it gives me anxiety going up to new customers and not knowing what to say. it's something i need to work on.
• Ronin

  

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  March 24, 2012 4:27 PM PDT

  Icky;
  I often used to wonder about this same subject. So I started asking a number of dancers about this. This is what I have gathered so far:
  
  Often time a dancer is sitting with a gentleman for a long time because he is her regular. He tips her and buys a lot of dances. Vast majority of her money comes from him or other regulars like him. She might have even come in to work on his request. He is often a long time customer with good track record who is there for her whenever she needs help (money or otherwise). He might have even paid her cab ride to work and back. She is there on his dime to work and dance for him.
  
  I once told a dancer I would have bought two dances from her. She told me very politely that $20 she would have made is inconsequential compared to the thousands her regular gives her. She was NOT about to offend her regular for my $20.
  
  Another dancer told me, she is a independent contractor and she gets to choose who she wants to dance for or spend time with.
  
  So I learned, just because a dancer is at a club it doesn't mean she is there to satisfy my needs. She is there to make her living as she sees fit.
  
  If I see a dancer is busy I learned never to bud in. I just look around for the others who are available.
• Stickyicky

  

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  March 24, 2012 4:41 PM PDT

  I'm not saying that chatting with a clinet is a bad thing. I know the girls notice when the crowd has new faces so all I ask is that you politely excuse your self from the conversation or massage to check in with the new customers. Here are some possible outcomes 1) the pl you are with will want to keep you and get another dance, 2) you may run into someone like me who wants to get a dance and rarely visits your spot, 3) You make your rounds and end up back with your club boyfriend and at least you know the others weren't interested at that time and you did not miss out on a sitting opportunity. The last one I hate mentioning is you meet another fuckoe as Manual puts it that wants to sit talk and rub like the fuckoe you just left! But hey it's not perfect.
  
  cassandra- your looks and body is all the game you need. But closed mouths don't get fed. I understand that you may get anxiety, but the truth is saying more than "wanna dance" can simply mean saying "hello I'm Cassandra, your name is? If the guy wants to talk hell expand. Guys still got to have game as well! Just make sure they dont turn it into a conversation only and keep guys like me waitng. The ones who don't expand will want a dance because of your looks and body, those who don't expand on the converation and decline your offer to dance because they are looking for something else at the time. A pl doesn't complain when they get asked multiple times by a girl for a dance, they complain when they decline a girl when they just walk in and the girl never comes back or a girl never approaches them at all and they don't smell or look that bad for that matter!
• iliklaps

  

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  March 24, 2012 4:43 PM PDT

  Moving forward........
• cASSandra

  

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  March 24, 2012 4:45 PM PDT

  also someone on this board once mentioned asking the waitress to get a girl for you if you don't want to interrupt her and another guy. if i'm just sitting with a guy because he's my friend or he seems interesting but he's not spending any money, i would gladly excuse myself to go to introduce myself to you. sometimes we have been mingling all night long and haven't made any money and are just discouraged, so we sit with someone we know. it might be our regular, but it might also just be someone that comes in every day and hangs out... it might even be someone who works there but it's their day off or something. you never know!
• Stickyicky

  

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  March 24, 2012 4:45 PM PDT

  Ronin-I agree with your comments and in those cases or similar then so be it.
• senior caliente

  

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  March 24, 2012 8:45 PM PDT

  I like to be individual and I work very hard at creating a unique and interesting stage show, a long time ago there was a girl who would go on stage after me and mimic my entire stage set...she danced to the music I would pick (and I don't dance to a lot of top 40- I make a big effort to dance to music no one else does) she would wear similar outfits and try to do my exact stage show...I know that imitation is the highest form of flattery but it would drive me up the wall....
  
  K @ carmen don't ever let this get to you. Imitation is the best form of flattery. I mean you have your routine down. We can tell by watching who the person is that is trying to match and the one she is trying to keep up with. Honestly its awesome watching the girl who knows what she is doing just go up and kill it and then watch the other girl kill herself to try and do the same thing.