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Manual said:
I've tried a few girls already, just because they were on here.And I'd bet it was most likely the ones who were at least somewhat active. Which is the smartest way to use this site for a dancer. Be active and keep your name on people's minds.
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senior caliente said:
That is my point. If everyone only went to the girls on here then all the other girls would create profiles, then they would post their own schedules and there would be no need for roll calls and instead the clubs could offer specials specific to zboners.
This is in a perfect world mind you.But that only works if everyone outed themselves. Otherwise how would the girls know it was a zboner visiting?
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I'm at work so I can't keep everyone's comments straight BUT- on the subject of dumb girls- I pride myself on being an intelligent female- especially in this industry and I find myself being tested in the club frequently- having to defend my intelligence... however I love the surprised faces when I not only meet but exceed their expectations!!! On the subject of cheaper dances- my philosophy is this- if there's bigger money out there (like someone wanting a half hour vs a topless) it would be stupid of me to pass that up- however if it's a dance special or no dance- again it would be stupid of me to pass that up- Any dance is better than no dance- girls that don't understand that don't deserve the dance in the first place.... as for business and zbone- it has DEFINITELY helped me... without the Z my whole little Carmen-Con would never have happened or been such a success for which I am so super grateful... but am I going to share the secret with every girl I see... no lollll- if this site gets saturated I might lose my special sparkle ;)))) hope everyone is having a great night I know I am!!! I can't wait to see you all again much love ;))) -
Tillrules said:
But that only works if everyone outed themselves. Otherwise how would the girls know it was a zboner visiting?
Not true, I am not saying the girls give any specials but the clubs themselves. They used to honor the zvip cards at clubs which was a perk for zboners. The clubs would have nothing else to do on here but have a profile that showed any specials they would give to zboners. Much like how BarnLegal says mention zbone and get in free or I think the Bare would say "say this stupid phrase and get in free".
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Carmen said:
.. but am I going to share the secret with every girl I see... no lollll- if this site gets saturated I might lose my special sparkle ;)))) hope everyone is having a great night I know I am!!! I can't wait to see you all again much love ;)))Dont be so greedy, I disagree. The cream will always rise to the top. Yes if it becomes saturated you will have to find another way to seperate yourself from the rest of the group but its no different than working at a club where every girl is hot, not avg but hot. This brings more money inside which causes every girl to make more. Take what people have said about 4play. The only complaint is the low mileage but I gaurantee those girls make bank because when every girl is hot there is no reason to do extras and other aspects of their "game" has to step up.
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senior caliente said:
Tillrules said:
But that only works if everyone outed themselves. Otherwise how would the girls know it was a zboner visiting?
Not true, I am not saying the girls give any specials but the clubs themselves. They used to honor the zvip cards at clubs which was a perk for zboners. The clubs would have nothing else to do on here but have a profile that showed any specials they would give to zboners. Much like how BarnLegal says mention zbone and get in free or I think the Bare would say "say this stupid phrase and get in free".
But how would it work without outing yourself? It's one thing to have a card that gets you in free, but its another to have dance specials tied to it. You'd have to show the girl you were a member to get any special.
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Manual said:
I don't mind outing that I read zbone. but I don't want to out me as my handle.That does make sense, but the reality is that some dancers I've met will be negative towards you, even just hearing zbone. But then how would the proposed process work, other than having actual id cards? Then there's the issue of dancers resenting the additional specials (which mean less money for them) just because someone is a member of a site that most dancers, if they've heard of it at all, know as being critical? The handful who are here know better, but the rest simply do not.
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If I hear about a girl from Z, I'll let her know. The ones I've danced with seemed to like it. and they like to hear about good reviews.
yeah, I know the rule of Z is not to talk about Z.
that would be nice for clubs too let zboners in free for saying a phrase. if clubs were smart, they could use it to keep track of how many PLs come in because of Zbone. -
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100% agree with Manual. I for the most part only get topless dances because I find nude dances a waste of money. I personally spend 90% of dances staring at a girls breasts or face, I barely ever look at her pussy nor do I really care too. What can I say, I'm a boobs man all the way. I also never cross that boundary and attempt to play with a girl's kitty, it's just a personal choice I make, it makes me feel like TOO much of a creep. With that said, you can see why paying an extra $10 for a nude dance is a such a waste for me. I can get everything I want with a simple topless. -
Manual said:
@Carmen: Like you said, Z works! I found out about you that way!!! When I went to VIP, some girls seemed pissed that I did a 10 dollar topless. Others were happy to do it. I am less inclined to be a repeat customer if they are pissed.I had the same experience there when I used to go there. I go a step further than you though, if a girl has attitude towards my request for a topless or gives me a half assed dance, i don't repeat with her, no matter how attractive she is or how much she promises on her upsell.
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Tillrules said:
Manual said:
@tillrules: i haven't run into dancers looking down too much on lower cost dances or specials at DVNH. I tell them to come back when there is a special, and they seem to get it. I agree with you though, the lower cost dances are a cheap way to test drive. smarter dancers will take it as such, and maybe get you to a higher dollar dance.I've got to disagree with you abouyt DVNH. At least half of the girls, run right to the back of the room during every single blue light special, making no effort to do them. And I have had some there who didn't like being asked for a cheaper dance and went right to the hard upsell.
I have a different experience. ALL the girls come out during the blue light, but the majority just stand in the corner in front of the door. They are REQUIRED to be on the floor during a blue light. Only a few girls will work the floor consistently. And then most dancers will dissappear again.
Hiding in the back is a MAJOR pet peeve. How can I check a dancer out and decide if I want a dance? How can I get a dance when there is no one on the floor?
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Manual said:
Tillrules said:
Manual said:
@tillrules: i haven't run into dancers looking down too much on lower cost dances or specials at DVNH. I tell them to come back when there is a special, and they seem to get it. I agree with you though, the lower cost dances are a cheap way to test drive. smarter dancers will take it as such, and maybe get you to a higher dollar dance.I've got to disagree with you abouyt DVNH. At least half of the girls, run right to the back of the room during every single blue light special, making no effort to do them. And I have had some there who didn't like being asked for a cheaper dance and went right to the hard upsell.
I have a different experience. ALL the girls come out during the blue light, but the majority just stand in the corner in front of the door. They are REQUIRED to be on the floor during a blue light. Only a few girls will work the floor consistently. And then most dancers will dissappear again.
Hiding in the back is a MAJOR pet peeve. How can I check a dancer out and decide if I want a dance? How can I get a dance when there is no one on the floor?
But is that any dfferent? If they come out on stage for a second and don't approach us, then they are still hiding like you said. Frankly its why I stopped going there. And I have seen a few run right of stage to the dressing room or right to that back corner without even trying to address a customer. Most of the desirean;e girls won't do the blue light or expect you to come to them. So with only the same girls to choose from, it gets boring fast.
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Manual said:
The only difference is that from your experience they hide in the back, in my experience, they hide in plain sight.Its the same experience though. If I'm sitting the way the club is configured and they are behind me, then they are hiding. Moreover, its not my job as a customer to go to the dancer to make a purchase. They are the seller and should come to me to sell their product. If I wanted to chase women around, I'd go to a real club or bar.
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Tillrules said:
Moreover, its not my job as a customer to go to the dancer to make a purchase. They are the seller and should come to me to sell their product. If I wanted to chase women around, I'd go to a real club or bar.
EXACTLY!!!!!
Okay now in response to what I was saying previously would be that some clubs give tickets for dances or VIPs why not have a promotion where the zboner would say a phrase or mention zbone and they get a free dance (a 2 for one of course) or free entry. The person would not have to out himself other than to the door person who would give them the ticket and this way the club would be able to also track numbers of the zboners actually frequenting the establishment. If no zboners or even a very small % are showing up they move on and invest thier time in something more worth while to generate customers for the club.
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Tillrules said:
Moreover, its not my job as a customer to go to the dancer to make a purchase. They are the seller and should come to me to sell their product. If I wanted to chase women around, I'd go to a real club or bar.
I agree with you bro. As a rule, I wait for the girl to come ask me for a dance. It shows a good work ethic.
I only break this rule if the dancer I want a dance from is hounded by other PL's, or she hasn't worked her way over to me yet.
I never get dances from girls who never even try. There is something unsexy abou it.
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@senior caliente: but then how is that ticket redeemed? You tell the dancer you want the dance and then hand her the coupon or present it once you pay. At some point, there has to be a point when the dancer learns you are from zbone. And that has a negative stigma, like it or not.
And how will the dancers who don't know about this site or know it as a negative site feel about having to do a discount dance (which again most dancers don't like to do) above and beyond the normal specials just because someone is a member here. I'd even guess some of the girls who are members here would be bothered by having the customers they recruit from here be constant discount dances. The idea of special zbone discounts simply is not feasible other than admission. -
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Manual said:
There is a benefit to mentioning Zbone to dancers that use Zbone. I don't get any discounts, but of the dancers I have met on Zbone, I have gotten preferential treatment, like a front of the line pass, when others are waiting.
And how many dancers is that really? Maybe 5 really active girls and maybe 10 more who post schedules and such. And like I said above, I'm guessing you interact with them on here before you go. But most dancers either don't know the site or think of it as a perv/mileage hunting site. So like I said above, it would probably be looked at as a negative by most dancers. Along the same lines, I would be interested in hearing how our regular dancers would feel about people from zbone showing up with 2 for 1 coupons or some such. Its one thing if it was people they've interacted with regularly on here but random guys just showing up with whom the only interaction has been when they accepted the friend invite. It would essentially double their work with no real reward based on nothing more than the customer joining a website. -
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Manual said:
Bro, I was just talking about the dancers that use Z.
I know, I just took your comment a step further, taking it beyond you personally, since you know so many people on the site and taking it to the average member who rarely posts or comments. I'm just not sure being on zbone is going to get the average zbone member any advantage (even a head of the line pass) even with the girls who post here. I guess maybe another question is in order: did you talk to the girls you've visited before you showed up? I recall you saying you interacted with cassandra before you met her. How about the others? That does make a difference, I think. -
It's has been a little of both. With the Z2, it's talk first on Z then visit and dance. That is the practicality of Z2.
On Z1, I'd only mention Z if I heard good reviews. If she had a many good review on Z, she probably knows about Z.
I never mention Z to a dancer if the dancer is never mentioned on Z.