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WHITE STRIPPERS AND THEIR RACISM TOWARDS LATINO CUSTOMERS

    • 43 posts
    March 22, 2012 3:47 PM PDT

    So I didn't know where to start this thread or to even start it from the get go but I had a few other members of this site mentioned they've encountered the same treatment from white dancers at strip clubs. As I mentioned yesterday in my updates, I've encountered this treatment not only in clubs in southern california but also at clubs in Arizona. You see, the ONLY color any dancer should see is GREEN. The whole concept of a strip club is for a gentlemen to relax, have a couple drinks and interact with women who he is attracted to without fear of being judged or rejected based on their race or social status. This isn't the case with dancers who are white. Now the reason why I point towards white dancers is because that's my preference and quite honestly, my self-esteem cannot take the fact we're supposed to be living in a time when racism is supposed to be at its minimal and it has for the most part, to anyone that isn't hispanic. I understand that there are white women who just go up to white males and I don't see this as insulting, it's ignorant but not insulting. What is insulting is these WHITE WOMEN who approach Black guys, Asian guys and basically anyone that isn't a "mexican". That right there is beyond racist and it's occuring more and more at strip clubs everywhere. Now I recently had one of the moderators here message me and essentially stereotyped me like, well, the same way 90% of white women stereotype "mexicans" as... he essentially said I should "CHANGE THE WAY I DRESS" "CHANGE THE WAY I TALK" AND THAT I SHOULD "FREQUENT CLUBS WITH MOSTLY LATINOS WHERE THERE AREN'T MANY WHITE WOMEN". Not only did this guy stereotype me as a "Thug" he essentially said I should stick to going to clubs that just have minorities. Problem is, I'm attracted to white women so 1) why should I spend my hard earned money on something I don't like? 2)Why do I need to go to a place that "my kind" outnumbers, for one, I'm not a "gangster", I don't listen to hip hop and am doing EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to not fit these NEGATIVE stereotypes. I'm a college graduate with a BS in Business Management and when I go to clubs, it's to buy dances and get the attention of girls I cannot get while at regular clubs. I don't want to deal with this here but I still do... Again... who knows if this will be deleted or whether my account wil be deleted (been a member of this site since 04) but at least I have the joy of letting this out and perhaps, creating a change in how white women protray and look at latinos....

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    March 22, 2012 5:21 PM PDT
    "Problem is, I'm attracted to white women so 1) why should I spend my hard earned money on something I don't like? "

    Works both ways friend. Why should a stripper give a dance to something she doesn't like? If a stripper isn't attracted to latinos for whatever reason, it's in her rights not give him a dance. There can't be a double standard.
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    March 22, 2012 5:53 PM PDT
    Well Drossi when that's your job title, then shouldn't you by all means do what's asked of your job description? I mean if you're a stripper and your business is to make money why wouldn't you do it huh? And you're right about there not being a "double standard" but there is. I've witnessed WHITE WOMEN flock BLACKS who aren't spending ANY money but yet you have a problem with "mexicans"? Why are you in this business again? hmm....
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    March 22, 2012 5:55 PM PDT
    And further Drossi, you're essentially saying that it's "ok" and "acceptable" to be racist to ONE type of ethnicity as long as you tailor to OTHER races, mainly Blacks right? Gee... talk about a "double standard"
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    March 22, 2012 6:00 PM PDT
    The contracts for the girls at the DVNH, and probably other Vu's says they can decline anyone a dance, for any reason.

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    March 22, 2012 6:02 PM PDT

    And while I'm at it, I should might as well drop a name that I will always remember for how rude she was... Her name is Jesse Lynn or Jessica Lynn. She works at SPEARMINT RHINO TORRANCE, daytime and nighttime usually there Weds through Fri, drity blonde, petite, wears glasses... My Latino brothers, DO NOT SUPPORT this girl.. She doesn't care for "mexicans" but I'm sure if you're a darker brown, she'd be all over you, even if you have no Green, which again.. is supposed to be the ONLY color WHITE STRIPPERS should see :D


    This post was edited by DanthaMan at March 22, 2012 6:03 PM PDT
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    March 22, 2012 6:06 PM PDT
    How do you dress at the clubs?
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    March 22, 2012 6:07 PM PDT
    @Manual DVNH is one of the few places I've ever encountered this problem but then again, last time I was there was about 4 years ago before everyone started pointing the finger at "mexicans" for this countries domestic problems so I can't really say anything bad about them but I know few adult films stars work there and I wouldn't be surprised if they're biased towards giving latinos dances over black guys because the racist porn industry doesn't take latin men into consideration either
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    March 22, 2012 6:09 PM PDT
    @Manual usually in either a Polo shirt and Jeans or a long sleeved button downed shirt and jeans... again.. no "cholo" status here. In fact, I think I dress better than most of the older white gentlemen who frequent these clubs but hey.. they see the skin tone and that I can't hide
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    March 22, 2012 6:12 PM PDT
    I haven't encountered it myself, but I have seen it happen to other Latino men. Dancers tell me it's because they tend to get too grabby, and won't take a hint.
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    March 22, 2012 6:14 PM PDT
    That's surprising that they avoid you dressed like that. The Latinos I see not approached are dressed down or in work clothing.
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    March 22, 2012 6:21 PM PDT
    like I said in another thread, It is not just white strippers, but strippers of all nationalities that avoid Latino men. I even had a Latina dancer tell me she avoids Latino men. lol.
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    March 22, 2012 6:44 PM PDT
    Well @Manual, it's essentially because American sociey tend to negatively stereotype "mexicans" as 2nd tier citizens and further, use the term "illegal" to get away with their discrimination of latinos. Again, this wouldn't fly with African Americans as that's a "no no" in this country but latinos, different story. And that's my whole point, it's like they essentially have it out for us and for what? No good reason that's what
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    March 22, 2012 6:48 PM PDT
    I know a girl one day she was venting to me about Latino's. She told me about being sick, crawlin out of bed to go get medicine. She is in the store wearing her old baggy sweats that she slept in her hair all sweaty from a fever & she smelled pretty foul. She said she got hit on several times by Latinos before she left the store & parking lot. In Encino. I thought she was bsing she told me she see's gardeners in their trucks braking hard for 80 year old women to whistle at them. So i started paying more attention. You don;t know how many times i had to swerve and the reason is Latinos will slow down or stop anywhere to get alook at a woman and yell at her. There is a reason for the stereotype, If you were a girl you would know. I didn't beleive it either until i saw it over & over
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    March 22, 2012 6:53 PM PDT
    LMAO what a lame attempt Melikiblondes and what again are you bringing to this subject? So what you're saying is ALL latinos are like this and that's their excuse to label us in this manner? Really? Because if we're going to play that game I can label every white guy as a Racist Uppidty Douche who thinks he knows everything or how about labeling every black guy as a thug trying to rob me? Or how all Asians can't drive? Or that All Arabs are terrorists? Or that All Jews are cheap? But yet, I don't think that because I was raised better than that and in a business where you're ONLY supposed to see the Green, it shouldn't be happening
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    March 22, 2012 7:14 PM PDT
    You're gonna always find dancers that don't want to dance for someone or other. What can you do? As a woman I know that there are dancers that won't dance for me....but so what? It's their loss, not mine. I know that for every dancer that won't dance for me there are 10 who will, and they are the ones that will get my money. You have to look at it that way or you'll drive yourself nuts and become very bitter.

    Reward the white dancers who will dance for you, and take satisfaction in knowing that the haters won't get a cent of your money.
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    March 22, 2012 7:40 PM PDT
    Well, you can't force people to do something they don't want to do. I'd rather that the girls that don't want to dance for me stay away so I don't waste my money on them and get a wack air dance from them.
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    March 22, 2012 7:53 PM PDT
    DAN, I feel you bro. I really do. I USED TO have that same problem. Not any more! How did I fix it? I STOPPED CARING. I don't give a fuck if some stupid rascist white bitch ignores me. FUCK HER. HER LOSS!!!! And I don't chase after strippers (of ANY race)either! I just say - NEEEEEXXXTtttt!!!!! and move onto another girl. Its that easy.

    And, I feel sorry for ya too. You live in the South Bay. 3 out of the TOP 5 WORST CLUBS (JET STRIP, BARE LAX and 4PLAY) are out there where you live. I think that's your MAIN problem! You need to STOP going to those SHITTY Clubs!! You're just going to have to drive out to Deja Vu City of Industry or VIP Showgirls or Deja Vu Ontario or Imperial or California Girls. I never have any problems with any of the girls being rascist at any of those clubs.

    Good Luck Bro!
    Let me know if you need any help.
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    March 22, 2012 8:27 PM PDT
    @lowpaw, now that's just sickening... I will never understand how a stripper would refuse to dance for a girl? Makes ZERO SENSE!!! Whenever I'm at a club and a girl is tipping a dancer on stage, I throw some bills so the girl can get more attention from the dancer. It's fun and girl on girl action is the BEST!!
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    March 22, 2012 8:35 PM PDT
    @sal Bro, first, I want to say I'm honored to be mentioned by you. I've never talked to you but I have read your comments in the old version of zbone mainly in the jet strip board and I agreed with everything you said back then. With that said, Yes, I do live in the South Bay and the clubs out here suck big time. The club I go to the most is the Rhino torrance and that's due to convenience and the staff but not the girls. The white girls there are very rude with the exception of Dawn and Sage (older white ladies). 4play I avoid at all costs and Bare Elegance,well, you might as well burn your money there. I don't want to make the drive out to industry or the valley because of the fear that I'm going to get the same kind of service from white dancers out there. I mean, I went to another state recently and received the same treatment there.
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    March 22, 2012 8:44 PM PDT
    I know many of you say "just stay away from the ones that are racist to latinos" but could it be that ALL white dancers are this way? I mean quite honestly, the ONLY few times I've ever had white dancers ask me for dances are older ladies and that's after they've been rejected by everyone else. I always get the "rejects" so to speak coming up to me and asking me for a dance and for a guy with low self-esteem issues as we speak, that doesn't bode well again, specially when I'm paying for the so-called "attention".
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    March 22, 2012 8:55 PM PDT
    DanthaMan said:
    LMAO what a lame attempt Melikiblondes and what again are you bringing to this subject? So what you're saying is ALL latinos are like this and that's their excuse to label us in this manner? Really? Because if we're going to play that game I can label every white guy as a Racist Uppidty Douche who thinks he knows everything or how about labeling every black guy as a thug trying to rob me? Or how all Asians can't drive? Or that All Arabs are terrorists? Or that All Jews are cheap? But yet, I don't think that because I was raised better than that and in a business where you're ONLY supposed to see the Green, it shouldn't be happening

    what am i bringing? Maybe some perspective that

    a. sometimes stereotypes actually are true percentage wise

    b.This business and none that i know of, are "all about the green"

     

    girls have different levels of what they like to do and what they won't. Some do not like to be nude and that is why it is optional in some clubs. Sometimes a girl will get nude that normally does not, if she feels comfortable. I know girls in this industry who prefer to dance with guys that are "their type". That is their right this is not prostituition it is lap dancing and the girl has every right to her preferences. Now that can be based on whatever she wants it to be, maybe she does not like guys who wear a particular cologne, or guys who bathe in it.

     

    The bottom line is the choice is up to the dancer, you don't have to like it but that is reality.


    This post was edited by Z Bone at March 22, 2012 9:40 PM PDT
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    March 22, 2012 9:03 PM PDT
    I guess what you're saying is the "reality" of it is.. white women have NO PROBLEM dancing or approaching black guys, asian guys but not latinos and yet this isn't a racist issue? Gee... why? Because they're open to approaching black guys? Don't you see it as even more racist that they will approach EVERY minority but one? And I do say ALL because that's the Majority of em but I guess your answer to this is just sit back and "take it in the ass". Funny how racial issues in this country are swept under the rug if it doesn't involve it happening to black people....
    • 459 posts
    March 22, 2012 9:05 PM PDT
    Dan THE MAN, trust me brutha, its NOT the same at the clubs I just mentioned to you. Yeah I know gas prices are Hell'a HIGH right now but you're just going to have to do drive out to some BETTER clubs. You don't have any other choice. You have to expand your clubbin experiences. And like I said - Stop going to all those Shit Holes. And STOP CARING ABOUT THOSE FUCKEN WHITE RACIST BITCHES!!!!

    Oh yeah hey, what about BAY GIRLS GENTLEMENS CLUB? Have you been there yet? Any of those chicks not give you the Respect you deserve?
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    March 22, 2012 9:07 PM PDT

    Dan-it's great to know that you support the "girl on girl" arts! Like you, I am also based in the SouthBay, tho I have been venturing out further lately beyond the Bare & Jet, which are my usual haunts. Sal mentioned Baygirls - Have you tried it yet? It's just around the corner from SR-Torr. Last time I was there there was a decent selection of dancer ethnicities. The customer base was predominately latino & the dancers approached most everybody in the club from what I could see.

     

     


    This post was edited by lopaw at March 22, 2012 9:09 PM PDT