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Date: 9/12/2007 6:19pm Name: Whois  TenFree Z-VIP Member (1116)
Delete Subject: RE: best club?
Starlight has better looking girls, but the action inside the club is non-existant.

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Date: 9/7/2007 6:47pm Name: Whois  ryan007 (2)
Delete Subject: best club?
is this the best hostess club in los angeles? ive been here a couple of times; the quality of the girls varied but was never too bad but never super either. i'm curious about club starlight. they're more expensive. i'm wondering how it compares to fantasy.

it's been a year since ive been to a hostess club or even strip club. if i had more money i'd go, but i'm really trying to work on my game to get girls for real. i'm still not successful.

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Date: 9/6/2007 6:22pm Name: Whois  TenFree Z-VIP Member (1113)
Delete Subject: RE: Mileage
I basically agree with everything the poster wrote except this: "My advice: Pick the sexiest girl in the room...." Personally, I will pick the sexiest girl that I think I can have a good time with, which is not necessarily the sexiest in the room. Sometimes you just have to go on gut feeling based on a combination of body language, what the girl is wearing, how she interacts with her customers, etc.

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Date: 8/24/2007 9:37pm Name: Whois  Jamie (28)
Delete Subject: Girls @ Fantasy
The glory days of hostess clubs (like the ones in the City of Industry) are long gone. Club Fantasy, in my opinion, is the best of the bunch in downtown LA these days. The quality of the girls is not uniformly great, but it never has been. There is probably someone for every taste. And they do have a lot of girls on the roster. If your taste runs to young and cute, you must be selective. The previous poster has it about right. Play it cool and be selective and you can probably find what you want in this club. Going too often will jade you. Once in a while, and you will keep the novelty going. But be prepared for disappointments on some nights. One experience should not be your only indicator, for good or bad.

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Date: 8/9/2007 9:16am Name: Whois  robertmm (New)
Delete Subject: Mileage
No ones posted in quite a bit. I figure maybe it's my time to give a little back to the board and get the ball rolling again.

I've been an infrequent regular at CF for years. Don't want to divulge too much but pure and simple: Be fairly upfront with what you are looking for. I've met plenty of girls there and I found that having a bit of tact and respect for the girl goes a looooong way also! Being too aggressive right away isn't the best move when you've just met a girl (same as if you were anywhere else!). As a newbie, I wasted a lot of hard earned cash learning the ropes. So here are a couple of very basic tips:

As some on the board have mentioned, there are a lot of girls who are pretty high mileage at CF. For best results, give her a chance to warm up to you. It will cost you more to clock different girls in and out trying to find the "right" one!

My advice: Pick the sexiest girl in the room and give her a chance to warm up to you. That's also good time to check out how serious about her job she is. If she interrupts your time together with "bathroom breaks" or cell phone calls. It's time to bail. You can complain to the desk and you may not have to pay (it's worked for me!).

If she seems attentive then start some small talk. Nothing too deep- you may get caught up in a long discussion about serious or sad topics and that will inhibit any potential fun that you might have (and cost you ). If the small talk goes well, then the rest is up to you... Simply put CF isn't a massage parlor, strip club or high school dance. Don't be stupid! Wanting too much or too little will cost you time and $$!

Me? I "dance" with a girl for a bit (3-4 songs) and then hit the sofas. We make small talk- helps if you speak Spanish! Once the ice is broken, then it's time to be upfront. At this point be confident not a pussy! YMWV. If you have poor social skills, bad hygiene and aren't neat and clean you won't get great service. If YOU are not upfront you will spend much more than you have to! But ALWAYS BE RESPECTFUL! If she's not into you or what you want, it's time to bail. If she's open to you then it's all good!

I'm not a fan of doing a lot inside the club so after a few visits with the same girl- I score her #. I've had a lot of great times with some VERY pretty girls over the years. Some have been pretty wild and brought along a friend. Others have been much, much, more of a GF experience. I've NEVER had a very bad experience with any of these girls on a date. Worst that happens: Some of the girls can be pretty flakey: stand you up, or not return phone calls within a couple of days (but no more so than any 18 - 20 year old you meet at a nightclub/bar). Some girls will try and put the pinch on you for (again, just like a lot of girls I've met at a nightclub/bar). It goes with out saying that you should NEVER give anyone your hard earned cash. Damn, I sound like my day.

Lastly, under no circumstances fall in "love" with a girl. Enjoy the ride for all it's worth but don't expect more than that. If not, you will end up emotionally and financially bankrupt.

Hopefully this was helpful and the discussion can recommence!

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Date: 5/5/2007 5:22pm Name: Whois  TenFree Z-VIP Member (1109)
Delete Subject: RE: Worth the investment?
Most girls will let you caress their body. The only way to know if you can get more is to try for it. If there were only twenty girls there then it was before 8:00 PM, which is why you didn't see any other girls you liked. Next time go after 9:00 PM. That's when the night shift comes in.

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Date: 5/4/2007 2:05pm Name: Whois  undakafu (New)
Delete Subject: Worth the investment?
Hi there, I'm new to the HC scene and went to Club Fantasy just this Wednest night, (may 2nd). I spent a lot of time with a lovely latina girl, 21yrs old, about 5'2" 100lbs with blond highlighted hair. She told me her name was Sara. I would like to come in and see her again but wasn't sure if it would be a waste of time or money if she's playing me as a newbie. Does anyone know if I can get any 'mileage' out of this girl? Even if I could just caress her body or kiss her, (more would be great too!!). Thanks for the advice. I know there are a lot of girls, about 20 that night, but she would be the only reason for me to go back there. -J

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Date: 3/4/2007 12:49am Name: Whois  tgkentmail (25)
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For someone's viewpoint on mileage, see the 07/15/07 review below.

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Date: 2/25/2007 4:05am Name: Whois  rod_ram (New)
Delete Subject: classy??
hi there first time in this group. I heard this club has more classier women. I hate the platforms on women but love them in clasic pumps and a great body abd face. How are these ladies dressed? and are there any asians in this club, also excuse my ignorance, I just started to go to these club scenes, actually just one and I have a question, what is the "mileage"? if it is a stupid question please be kind. I have been to the grand and there are some o.k. chicks but some nice ones have an attitude.

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Date: 2/22/2007 6:18pm Name: Whois  TenFree Z-VIP Member (1102)
Delete Subject: RE: Visit in Feb 07
Those girls you saw leaving at 10 PM weren't the most "together" girls, they were the early shift.

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Date: 2/3/2007 11:18pm Name: Whois  tgkentmail (23)
Delete Subject: Visit in Feb 07
Well, after an absence of several years, I found the opportunity to go twice last week. Must say, I was pleasantly surprised at the talent. Also surprised at how many guys were just window shopping, leaving a lot of girls on the couches. Interesting that on the weekday, a lot of good looking girls left at 10 p.m. Must be the more "together" girls with day jobs looking for some spare cash in the early evening. Both nights, got lucky finding a friendly girl right off the bat. Worth checking out if you've been MIA.

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Date: 12/29/2006 11:02am Name: Whois  TenFree Z-VIP Member (1101)
Delete Subject: RE: Fire truck and ambulance at CF
Yeah, a customer had a heart attack on the dance floor and died.

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Date: 12/24/2006 11:31am Name: Whois  Lance69Love (2)
Delete Subject: Fire truck and ambulance at CF
The night of Dec 23 2006 there was a fire truck and ambulance at CF and the club was closed. Anyone have the full story?

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Date: 7/30/2006 2:13pm Name: Whois  TenFree Z-VIP Member (1099)
Delete Subject: RE: Violence
[noonie]-->Tenfree, I'm not really that old or that fat, just critical of myself. Based on that posting I was refering to, I guess I would not find any self esteem at these clubs either. Although having guys be attracted to girls seems like a logical esteem booster, even if it is a bunch of horny guys looking to get lucky?!

[TenFree]-->Well, IMO there are better ways of boosting your self esteem than working in a hostess club.

[noonie]-->This excerpt below was posted earlier this year in the Tropical club section by Pretty Girl. This is the Violence I was refering to. Maybe not like slapping, but some form of aggression, to say the least.

<snip>

[TenFree]-->Oh, that. That can happen in any club, but it's not a commonplace occurance.

[noonie]-->I went to Club Fantasy because the reviews on this website said it was one of the better clubs, but that is from your point of view. We will see if I can work up the courage to get back in there again.

[TenFree]-->There really aren't that many alternatives. I agree you wouldn't like working for Fred, and you probably wouldn't fit in at the latino clubs. I don't think you would like Starlight either.

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Date: 7/30/2006 9:58am Name: Whois  noonie (1)
Delete Subject: violence
Tenfree, I'm not really that old or that fat, just critical of myself. Based on that posting I was refering to, I guess I would not find any self esteem at these clubs either. Although having guys be attracted to girls seems like a logical esteem booster, even if it is a bunch of horny guys looking to get lucky?!

This excerpt below was posted earlier this year in the Tropical club section by Pretty Girl. This is the Violence I was refering to. Maybe not like slapping, but some form of aggression, to say the least.

{"Pretty soon the guys started getting rough and trying to grab me. I would resist and get security but they were no help. I threatened to quit in order to get the security to do anything."}

For some reason I think the Tropical Club and Fred are not the best choice, for the girls at least. I know a girl that worked for Fred and she was not to happy with him either.

I went to Club Fantasy because the reviews on this website said it was one of the better clubs, but that is from your point of view. We will see if I can work up the courage to get back in there again.

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Date: 7/16/2006 3:28pm Name: Whois  TenFree Z-VIP Member (1097)
Delete Subject: RE: Girls
No offense Noonie, but if you're "old and fat" you've already got two strikes against you if you want to work in a hostess club. What "violence" at Tropical are you referring to? I don't recall any posts that mentioned violence.

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Date: 7/15/2006 5:59am Name: Whois  fastscrs (4)
Delete Subject: Girls
Speaking only for myself, Yes, I expect a handjob when I visit the club. If its apparent she's not going to give one I clock her back in quickly. However, not giving one is the exception. Most girls do it without a second thought. I will also clock a girl back in quickly if she does not allow me to fondle her breasts, reach inside her dress to cup them or let me stroke her legs. I also want them to allow me to to sneek a peek at their panties to see what color and style they are wearing. The best girls will let me finger them while they give me a hand job.

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Date: 7/8/2006 5:07pm Name: Whois  noonie (New)
Delete Subject: Girls
I am a girl and have been thinking about working at a club. I applied and was hired at cf but did not go back cause I got cold feet.

Although I did get hired, after reading this stuff I think I may be too old, fat and prude for the job. Do all you guys expect hj's and stuff? Is there any violence at cf like at Freds place,? I read the girls review there, sounded horrible.

Any feedback or suggestions?

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Date: 6/4/2006 11:24am Name: Whois  time4aspliff (New)
Delete Subject: -ROB's are not our friends-
I recently posted this on another board and decided to re-post it here for two simple reasons:

1. Evidently, there seems to be a recent wave of unreasonble snobby hostesses who are doing their best to prey on spineless patrons/newbies.

2. This board seems really dead. With summer upon us, it behooves us to kick start it.









CF Report

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Hey guys,

I just thought I'd post a recent experience of mine since I've got some free time on my hands.

Anyways, it's been a while but I was near downtown last week shortly before 5:00 so I figured I'd stop in for a visit. After parking, I made a quick run to the Grand Central Market for a huge plate of Hawaiian ribs and rice for 3 bucks. (I couldn't even finish it)

I make it in to the club by around 5:35 and it looked awfully bleak. (some old/tired faces along with some girls that should be hitting up the gym and eating salads) After checking my voicemails and sitting on my ass for about 20 minutes, I decided to head out for happy hour or something when out-of-nowhere, this young sexy looking Latina came out of the dressing room. She had a great compact body w/a nice mini-skirt and a face that was at once innocent and nasty. The kind of girl that looks sexy when she's bored or pissed. There were around 16 other guys in the club and no one was going for her even though she was clearly the youngest, sexiest girl in the club. That was sort of a red flag but I took my chances and rolled the dice.

She seemed pleased to be clocked-in (it was the first time I saw her smile) so I figured I was off to the races. On the dance floor, she didn't pull away as far as grindage was concerned but she would vehemently turn her head away whenever my head got anywhere near hers. She also kept making this really loud sighing noise if my face ever got too close to hers. It was like she was trying to tell me in her own snotty way that she was repulsed by me. I was beginning to understand why the regulars ignored her earlier.

Call me weak or whatever but instead of clocking her out at that point, I decided to test the couch waters. I almost knew it was going to be a mistake but she was so sexy looking, I had to try. So we order our drinks and chat for a bit when I realize that she's doing her best to sit as far away from me as possible. If I put my arm around her she wouldn't push me away but she was clearly trying to sit at the other end of the couch. I also notice that she's constantly checking her cell phone for text messages from her friends-to the point where I was pretty much being ignored. So as she had the audacity to type in a response, I rubbed her breasts and she pushed my hand away and said something like 'you have to tip me really well if you want to do that' So I finally pull my head out and tell her that I wanna clock-out and she starts looking at the time on her cell. Before we get up, she says, 'It's been almost one hour so you have to give me atleast 100'. I tell her that she's gotta be kidding and she starts calling me rude for keeping her for almost an hour. She goes on to give me some total b.s. about her customers usually tipping her that much and then follows it with a sob story about having trouble with bills or something. This girl will try to play if off like she's kind of innocent or whatever but she's a total scammer and a total waste of time. She told me her name was Vanessa and her clock number is 80. The words spoiled brat come to mind. I think she usually works M, W, and F on the early shift.

I don't remember the name of the second girl I clocked but I think she was #122 or #121. This girl (another Latina) was the complete opposite of the above mentioned hostess. She was sincere, kind and never spoke of money. She was quite accomodating and I wouldn't hessitate to clock her in again in the future. She said she might start working weekends this summer. Needless to say, she was very appreciative of my gratuity.

Well, I've gotta get back to work but let's keep this thread alive.

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Date: 1/29/2004 7:30am Name: Whois  Delta (857)
Delete Subject: The new couch arrangement
Well, at least last night, the area was substantially darker than normal, making mileage possible.

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Date: 11/21/2003 3:57pm Name: Whois  TenFree (829)
Delete Subject: RE: Trip report 11-20-03
I've heard of a guy who wears pantyhose and lingerie underneath his regular clothes. Is that who you're talking about?

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Date: 11/21/2003 3:19pm Name: Whois  Delta (704)
Delete Subject: Trip report 11-20-03
Last night CF had more girls than LAG . . .even on a Thursday night. There is less mileage at CF becuase eveything is so open . . . just a couple of couches to fool around on. Mileage at LAG was more available . . . even on the dance floor.

I HATE the CF DJ . . . techno shit no one dances to for an hour at 10:00. LAG is all good all the time.

Have you ever seen the cross dressing guy who comes into LAG?

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Date: 11/5/2003 3:07pm Name: Whois  Delta (622)
Delete Subject: Trip Report 11-5-03
I get so tired of the shitty DJ playing fast songs for an hour every night beginning at 10:00 p.m.! Does he think people really go to these clubs to have a fun night of fast dancing?!?!?!

They should fire his sorry ass. Management is completely unresponive to complaints. The only remedy is to tip the DJ to get him out of it. Maybe that's his scam?

What do you think?

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Date: 11/3/2003 10:47pm Name: Whois  Hurricane (153)
Delete Subject: Trip Report, 11-3-03
I stop-by this club last Sunday night and the usual number of girls and customers were there. There is a new waitress working there for the first time. Most of the younger latinas worked for a couple of hours then split. However, there were more ladies coming in around 10:00pm. Otherwise, it was pretty slow business compared to LA Grand club.

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Date: 10/28/2003 12:08pm Name: Whois  lahc_lover (New)
Delete Subject: Hi, Hurricane
Hello, Hurricane could you please send me e-mail. I have questions that I would like to ask. Sorry for the trouble.

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Date: 10/24/2003 8:20am Name: Whois  Delta (586)
Delete Subject: Thursday afternoon
As I looked around the Club Thursady afternoon, I saw 8 girls. I thought about the 30 or so that must have been at LAG at the same moment. On the other hand, the mileage at CF from the afternoon shift can't be beat, even at LAG.

I guess each club has its advanatages.

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Date: 10/23/2003 7:51am Name: Whois  Delta (583)
Delete Subject: Wednesday night
Nothing special last night. Normal number of girls and customers. Usual nonsense on the front couches next to the TV.

I saw one girl refuse a customer's request to dance. When I aksed her why she said one of her friends had told her that the guy was "no good and not nice." I danced with this girl and she is very cute and worth the effort. I expect her friend's real point was he was too grabby and didn't tip enough.

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Date: 10/21/2003 12:04am Name: Whois  Hurricane (152)
Delete Subject: Re: Thursday night
I agree with Delta. Thursday nights (about 9:00pm) at LA Grand seems to be best time. There are plenty of selection of latina women to choose from. Although, the club gets really packed after 10:00pm. On the other hand, business at Club Fantasy seems to vary each week. For instance, this week tends to be slow and the following week can suddenly become busy. One Thursday night I visited CF after I came from LA Grand. Wow! What a big contrast in business. I thought LA Grand was so much better than CF.

By the way, there is a black transient guy who hangs out across the street from CF who will greet you then begs for extra pocket change. He's becoming to be a real nuisance everytime I visit CF. I hope nobody gives him money, so he will go away.

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Date: 10/20/2003 8:11am Name: Whois  Delta (580)
Delete Subject: Thursday night
That's good to hear Toney. Thursday night was also crazy at LAG, but that's because of the rule that girls must work 3 weekend shifts. I can't figure why a sudden burst at CF though. Maybe it's strippers looking for alternate employment in advacne of the 10/25 effective date of the ordinance?

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Date: 10/17/2003 4:11pm Name: Whois  toney3002 (New)
Delete Subject: Thursday night
CF was packed on Thursday night. I went there to see a former LAG girl. There were tons of pretty girls there, and in fact I regretted afterwords that I danced with my former LAG girl. (there were better choices) I saw a lot of groping in the TV room. I noticed one light skinned good looking Black girl who was doing the serious make-out with her customer. Any idea who that may be?

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Date: 9/13/2003 9:19am Name: Whois  Delta (495)
Delete Subject: Business Picking Up?
Thursday night was packed. I've neer seen it so busy. Something going on generally? Is business picking up at CF, declining at LAG? Any insights?

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Date: 8/20/2003 11:07am Name: Whois  Delta (462)
Delete Subject: time to rally
I agree. Last night seemed back to normal for the regular girls. Normal sweltering heat on the couches prevailed.

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Date: 8/20/2003 12:11am Name: Whois  sideways8 (4)
Delete Subject: time to rally
Time to return to CF and raise the girls' spirits men with our generosity and good natures, get things back to normal!

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Date: 8/19/2003 9:44am Name: Whois  donjuan (84)
Delete Subject: bust is killing mileage
The girls that gave the extras at CF are now a little scared after the bust. But some are now more open that SAL is gone. Does anoyone have anyone have any info on Jennylee--a short cute white girl? She was cute, but gave low mileage---has anyone received more??

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Date: 8/14/2003 9:41am Name: Whois  Delta (453)
Delete Subject: Re; The bust
Lisette is from Mexico. She is a very sweet girl. We have been out several times. Her spelling is Lisette . . . sorry.

She is now moving to Arizona near the border.

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Date: 8/14/2003 9:28am Name: Whois  TenFree (764)
Delete Subject: RE: the bust
[Delta]-->Lysette was dancing with a guy and he turned out to be an undercover cop. She said something that caused him to make the bust by calling in uniformed guys. Although he too was removed with her, it was apparently to keep his cover.

[TenFree]-->I don't know who Lysette is, but I heard from two different sources that the guy who was removed with her was someone on staff. I understand it's not uncommon when LE has a warrant for them to detain and question anyone in the company of the arrestee. And if he was LE and they really wanted to preserve his cover, why did he return to the club 10 minutes later (rhetorical question)? That's not the way LE usually works. Normally the guy would clock out the girl, wait a reasonable length of time, then call in the unis (who would have been provided with a name and description).

BTW, there have been conflicting reports on the ethnicity of the girl arrested. Can you tell me if she was white or Latina?

[Delta]-->The club management are active readers of this site TF.

[TenFree]-->I'm sure they are.

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Date: 8/14/2003 8:23am Name: Whois  Delta (451)
Delete Subject: the bust
Lysette was dancing with a guy and he turned out to be an undercover cop. She said something that caused him to make the bust by calling in uniformed guys. Although he too was removed with her, it was apparently to keep his cover.

The club management are active readers of this site TF.

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Date: 8/13/2003 10:06am Name: Whois  Delta (449)
Delete Subject: Sal
[TenFree]-->Yeah, and from what I hear he has tried to act on it several times. You actually talk to that jabroni?

[Delta] Occupying the glass house I currently occupy, I'm careful about what I throw in the neighborhood.

Sal and I share temporal weaknessas a character trait. It gives us a certain bond.

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Date: 8/13/2003 9:38am Name: Whois  TenFree (763)
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[Delta]->ADT is a protection service. They patrol neighborhoods, monitor alarms and stuff. Last night was it for Sal. Maybe Sleepy knows where he is in the future.

[TenFree]-->As long as he's anywhere but there, I don't care.

Sal says his wife sort of made the push to get him to move. At least at ADT there is some opportuiity for promotion. Club security is a dead end.

He says there was lots of temptation too at the clubs.

[TenFree]-->Yeah, and from what I hear he has tried to act on it several times. You actually talk to that jabroni?

BTW, regarding the bust, the latest word is the girl was arrested because she had a warrant out for some offense that had nothing to do with CF. It's just that LE knew she worked there. No customers since it wasn't CF action.

p.s. check out the HC Forum.

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Date: 8/13/2003 7:21am Name: Whois  Delta (446)
Delete Subject: Sal
ADT is a protection service. They patrol neighborhoods, monitor alarms and stuff. Last night was it for Sal. Maybe Sleepy knows where he is in the future.

Sal says his wife sort of made the push to get him to move. At least at ADT there is some opportuiity for promotion. Club security is a dead end.

He says there was lots of temptation too at the clubs.

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Date: 8/12/2003 3:27pm Name: Whois  TenFree (762)
Delete Subject: RE: New Girls
[Delta]--> <snip>

"BTW, tonight is Sal's last night. He is going to work for ADT as a Patrolman."

[TenFree]-->No ?! There is a God! What's ADT?

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Date: 8/12/2003 2:07pm Name: Whois  Delta (445)
Delete Subject: RE: New Girls
Maybe it was Friday night TF.

BTW, tonight is Sal's last night. He is going to work for ADT as a Patrolman.

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Date: 8/12/2003 11:16am Name: Whois  TenFree (761)
Delete Subject: RE: New Girls
I thought the bust occurred Friday night?

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Date: 8/12/2003 8:34am Name: Whois  Delta (443)
Delete Subject: RE: New Girls
Before you get too excited about the new girls . . .

Last Thursday, a customer and a girl were taken from the couches in handcuffs by uniformed officers. Seems like something occured on that couch that offended community standards (hmmmm).

Since arresting the guy is unusual, the girls now think one of the new girls is undercover vice. The atomsphere was chilled last night, notwithstanding the new red carpet.

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Date: 8/8/2003 12:23pm Name: Whois  TenFree (757)
Delete Subject: RE: new girls
Uh, how about a description of Ginger, and maybe a clock number?

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Date: 8/8/2003 1:39am Name: Whois  donjuan (78)
Delete Subject: new girls
finally there is a new batch of women..some real hotties.. Check out Ginger--very good mileage

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Date: 7/27/2003 7:00pm Name: Whois  meow (New)
Delete Subject: improvements
The club doesn't make any improvements because they are cheap and they can do as they please. They make about 300,000 profit a year. You would think that would warrant some new lighting or air conditioning. What does it matter to them? They're laughing all the way to the bank.

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Date: 7/19/2003 1:45pm Name: Whois  TenFree (734)
Delete Subject: RE: calm?
Things have calmed down somewhat. The lighting hasn't been quite as bright. Security still bugs, though.

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Date: 7/19/2003 2:38am Name: Whois  Looking (9)
Delete Subject: calm?
Have things calmed down at CF or is LE still all over there case?

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Date: 7/7/2003 2:30am Name: Whois  dooty (New)
Delete Subject: CLUB FANTASY #162
I HAVEN'T BEEN TO FANTASY FOR A WHILE NOW BUT WHEN I WENT BACK I WANTED TO LOOK FOR A CERTAIN GIRL WHO DIDN'T DO ANYTHING EXTRA BUT THAT I JUST LIKED. I THINK SHE SAID SHE WAS FROM EL SALVADOR AND SHE HAD LIGHTENED HAIR PASSED HER SHOULDERS AND SORT OF A FLAT FACE AND I THINK HER DANCE NUMBER WAS 162. I ASKED FOR HER AT THE CLUB BY NUMBER AND THEY TOLD ME SHE DIDN'T WORK THERE ANYMORE. IF ANYONE KNOWS IF SHE IS WORKING SOMEWHERE ELSE PLEASE POST ABOUT THE SUBJECT.

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Date: 6/27/2003 4:26pm Name: Whois  TenFree (728)
Delete Subject: RE: Lights
Not a bust, just a lot of undercover LE coming in is what I've heard. That part about the city inspector is total BS. The lighting requirements for HCs are the same as for restaurants and are basically the equivalent of a 40 watt bulb for a 10 X 10 space.

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Date: 6/26/2003 4:54pm Name: Whois  Delta (357)
Delete Subject: RE: Lights
Not that Sleepy would tell the truth about it if the real reason was a bust, but Sleepy says the City sent an inspector one day who brought a light meter to measure the lumen level. What a crock!

Being deficient in lumens, the club has added ilLUMENation.

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Date: 6/24/2003 12:11pm Name: Whois  TenFree (727)
Delete Subject: RE: Lights
You haven't heard? Supposedly CF has been getting a lot of LE attention lately.

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Date: 6/24/2003 8:54am Name: Whois  Delta (354)
Delete Subject: Lights
Last night I thought I was on stage when I sat down in the couch area. I have never seen so much light . . . much brighter than on the dance floor even.

Sal's trips through the area didn't seem more fequent, although even Sleepy made one inspection. What is the problem at Fantasy?

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Date: 5/28/2003 11:38pm Name: Whois  donjuan (New)
Delete Subject: amber
met a new white girl at fantasy. her name is amber...has anyone seen her ---how is her mileage. she gave me a little mileage, but I wanted more

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Date: 5/19/2003 12:16am Name: Whois  Looking (7)
Delete Subject: Friday night
Last Friday night I ended up going to CF last minute. I arrived around 1am ish. Although I am somewhat new, I have gone to HC's only a handful of times, I have to say that this was a very big mistake. I have had a LOT of luck at the clubs. I either have just gotten really lucky or I just have had very good instincts in picking women. However, my good luck finally fell through.
First off, the pickings were very slim. I’m sure that there must have been good ones, but I am equally sure that they were all taken. I ask a younger blonde girl if she was free (obviously a dumb question as she was sitting in the 'lineup' area). The second she stood up so that we could clock out I knew that I had made an incredibly bad choice. I could tell that this girl was not even going to attempt to give a false pretense of even being mildly interested or friendly. This is something that I have not experienced often either in a HC or in regular life. I don’t remember her name, but she has shoulder length straight blonde hair. She is in her very very early 20s. She just had a kid three months ago, but I will say that she doesn’t look it. Dad ditched out. By the way, if you hear this story I suggest you clock her back in immediately as she is not really worth the time. I ended up clocking her back in about 30 minutes, which is about 15 more minutes that I really should have spent with her. I paid the $13 dollar bill and gave her the worst tip I have ever given any hostess; $6. Thinking back I should have made it five. Ah well, one has to have a fruitless trip at least once. Lesson learned. Never go to any HC when there is only one hour left as all the good ones will be taken. Secondly, if getting the cold shoulder don’t wait the full thirty minutes to be polite. Ditch her out after the first mandatory 10 minutes. However, the experience hasn’t deterred me and I’m sure Ill go again as I have started to do on a very occasional basis.

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Date: 5/12/2003 10:56pm Name: Whois  Ratpack (18)
Delete Subject: re Club Decor
i think TF hits the nail on the head here. the last thing any of these clubs need is more amenities to give guys reason to stand around more than they already do. and, there isn't much they could do anyway... they are working with limited space.

as for why ownership isn't making improvements, what's the incentive? the place is reasonably clean and decent. and most customers aren't going there strictly for the atmosphere.

my only real bitch with the set up is that one couch area where there are 3 rows pressed together. i mean, i don't need a private room, but a little privacy would be nice.

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Date: 5/12/2003 5:29pm Name: Whois  TenFree (709)
Delete Subject: RE: Club Decor
The reason management isn't doing anything to improve the decor is simple, they're too fucken cheap!

How would they add more space for standing near the bar? They can't increase the length of the bar. Also, CF in particular has too many looky loos. Adding more space for the men to sit down would only make matters worse.

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Date: 5/11/2003 11:47pm Name: Whois  Hurricane (131)
Delete Subject: Club Decor
After reading Soggs post, I started realizing why the manager isn't doing anything about the interior decor and replacing the couches and furniture inside the club. I suspect they already generated enough renevue from entrance fees collected daily from customers to make it possible unless they pocket the money for themselves other than making improvements.

The manager also needs to add more space for the men to stand or sit near the bar. On the other hand, there seems to be plenty of space for the women to sit while waiting for the guys.

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Date: 5/11/2003 12:06am Name: Whois  Soggs (1)
Delete Subject: First Visit to CF or any club
Hey Gang,

I have recently discovered the Hostess Club scene. I decidedd to try CF, because from the posts and reviews here and on yahoo, I thought it would fit my interests best.

As I winded down the stairs to the celler of the building at 307 $th Street, I got the disctinct smell of warm flesh; the same smell that another poster analogized to a strip club.

The look of the place reminded me of a Strip club I had visited on Revolution street in TJ several years ago. The main room was a little depressing, but entirely unatractive. There is an assortment of fake leather couches, cheap dinning table chairs, and some tables in the middle of the room that are not heavily used, like a patio at a reasonably priced italian restuarant.

Men of all ages and races were mulling around, some seemed like they were just killing time with little interest in the women besides looking. The others seemed to be assessing whether they should wait for their first choice, or talke a chance on another woman.

After fifteen minutes or so, I decided to talk with a twenty something half white, half mexican, Katie. She was thin with long brown hair, and a nice smile.

We sat and talked for a while about her five kids, and her husband that she has little in common with now who she met and has been with since 15 years old. We went out on the dance floor for about 15 minutes, where she was cuddly, and did some mild grinding. I enjoyed the company very much, but no action, and she seemed to want to get that out indirectly shortly after sitting down with me.

I was with her about one and a half hours, the manager had not punched her in and I ended up paying 31 and change. Tipped her the same and started scouting again.

I sat with a Brazilian, Venezualian woman next, Andreana, I think. She was tall, lonmg black hair, big boobs long legs, great looking for sure. I had more in common with her, and the conversation was nice, but again little contact, and not even cuddling. I stayed an hour with her, and gave her 30.

I enjoyed my time at the club, and I will go back and try again. I wish we had some choices outside the city.

Robert

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Date: 5/2/2003 10:42am Name: Whois  Hurricane (129)
Delete Subject: Re: First CF Visit - GREAT!
Morone99-
It sounds like you had a great time at the club. The best part on the dance floor is roaming her ass, g-string and sides with your hand and maintaining eye-contact with her--that's pure intimacy. I also love to dance with the lady that way especially pressing your cheek against hers. As soon as she fall into my arms, depending on her, we would kiss on the lips. That already happened to me a lot of times. Once in the while, I would get french kisses from other ladies which arouses me.

I usually start off with a slow dance with the lady. I roam her body feel her up with my hand and then take her to the TV/couch area for some real action.

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Date: 5/1/2003 4:23pm Name: Whois  morone99 (1)
Delete Subject: First CF Visit - GREAT!
Finally made the break for CF and visited it a couple times over the past 9 days. Overall, newbie's gotta get in there to experience a
unique side of life, to say the least. Although, I don't think I'll ever be efficient enough, there is plenty to be had here for the right guy in the right place at the right time.

After finding the parking lot rather filled, and free, I got last slot and headed on in. Walked in about 10:30pm, with 15 or so guys hanging around the the street outside, looked like they were taking a break. At first I thought the place had a line to get in or something. Once reaching the door, the familiar smell of a strip club overcame me and I handed my $5 for admission. However, I immediately noticed what so many here have commented on - 'It looked like a high school dance', with about 40 guys on the left hand side by bar and in tables and a line up of nearly 30 girls on the long couch rows. The place was busy.
So in I went, and walked to the far end of the bar, where there was finally a place to stand and scope the place out. Rather older crowd of guys and younger avg girl age than I had expected. Most of the guys seemed to have come in groups of 3 or 4 and most seemingly knowing a few of the girls. Immediately felt out of place. I was able to blend in for being early 20s and did catch some of the girlz eyes. Odd to see taller, almost manly looking girls on the couches near the DJ. Of course being so close to them, a couple were very
suggestive in their looks at me, but I wasn't going that low with all the hotties prancing around.

A couple myths I picked up on from reading the boards that were untrue in person. The club itself is all on one floor. Couches are all leather-like and black with rather low backs, so slouching down is best way to avoid being seen. Couches in "TV room" are the best place to go, but this ain't no room, just blocked off with low wall and video games from entry way. TV is annoying, as it was showing some news show. Music is all in all alright, some songs really get the girlz going, depending on the girl. Yes, there was some grinding going on on the dance floor, but nothing like the butt, only close hip grinding from the girlz. Enjoyable, but I missed the butt grind too.

Now, after partaking in the restroom and checking out the girls dressing room, door was open had to peek for a bit, I got up the nerve (which is something I didn't expect I'd have, but there are just so many to choose from with different tastes) to ask a hispanic girl to dance. She had been tracking me with her eyes to the three places I
had been standing and moving to and she was wearing a low blouse and short skirt so I thought she'd be just right for grinding and hj, if I
could. Her name was Diamond. Odd name, as there was nothing diamond about her. She was rather accomodating once we got to the dance floor, but was not as into the grind as I had wanted. Should have read this sign early on, but being a rookie I figured Icould learn from her and have a look around. Intimacy all over the place, but you
get the feeling like you gotta be a regular in the club, and a regular with the right girl too! After we exchanged opening discussion and danced a couple songs, and she explained the tipping (told her I knew how the place worked, but she made point to explain that) we headed for a couch.

She walked me right to TV couches, but all on that side were full. Where did all of these couples come from. This is why I fully believe that action here is almost as dependent on timing and location as it is on girls personality and your look. Had to settle for one of the front couches in the back section. Ok, place. Noticed older asian guy with girl on her knees and head in her croutch. Had to find this girl, but they were there for hours, no chance. Odd thing that security and waitress were non-effective for what I thought they were to do. They did stop Diamond from allowing hands to roam to breasts. Then I noticed she had full padded bra on. Wow, wasn't getting far here, but conversation was alright until we went into her life, or fake life 100%. Not boring, but I wasn't conversing for friend. Just about point blanked asked her what time she was done that night, what
she was doing after, and if she saw guys on the outside. Answers: 2am; Tired, going home to sleep have to work in AM; no I'm single. Ok.

She said let's go to front couches, I saw a couple leave. So over we scampered, as it seemed that others had same idea. We made it to second counch on right. Good area once in. Can see how this would make milage. But she still wasn't biting. I think she was more interested in TV watching if anything. And I already bought her a drink, so chased off waitress. Helps to have bottles of trash on table to. So after a few minutes there and realizing she wasn't going to allow much more than rub her legs, I told her let's go clock in.
And we were back to desk. Paid bill, about 40 min of time but bill was only $13.75. Paid and gave her a $9 tip, all i had for right change and she smiled and left for dressing room. Back out I was to bar area. Now about midnight, there were a little less than half the guys remaining and a number of girls disappeared.

There is this one hot, nearly 5'11 on heels blond, wearing all black with ass cheek showing short skirt who was on a turnstile being clocked in and out. She looked bitchy and had a line up to get
through by telling other guys no in between. Seemed more like a pusher than a provider. Not sure what her deal was, but maybe she got guys to blow their loads just from being next to them.

Several other girls caught my eye as well, including a couple hispanic girls who barely had their nipples covered, but they were off work and
eating away at some chips.

So had to find 2nd girl for the night, as I still wanted some action. By the way, a little awkward to run into Diamond while checking out others and getting more intimate later on.

One girl that caught my eye earlier because of interesting one piece dress, with large slash in the side of dress and short skit and low top, rather young looking was Sabrina. Gave her a few minutes after coming out of dressing room and walked over and asked her for a dance. Her face really lite up, last guy she was with was way old and ugly and she was totally turned off. So Sabrina takes me by the hand, with a firm squeeze, now Iknow I'm on the next level of HC'ing, and takes me over to the dance floor. She picks out spot in back near pole, puts her arms around me and gets into the grind and dance.

Sabrina is not only hot looking, but a hot and sensual dancer. She seemed to like the fact that she got me hard and I felt big to her little hips. I proceeded to play with her firm ass, while she would pull her skit down now and then to not expose her ass to the public. I also let my hand roam around her breasts, which she was okay with
too and down the side and back of her dress to get a top feel of her ass and g-string. All in all a great girl to find to dance with, now how was her couching method. After a good while dancing she said that we should go and sit for a little, the music had also gotten a little odd rhythm too. But again, front couches were full and so we ended
up, ironically enough, at the same couch Diamond and I had occupied. This time was different. Sabrina a better hg continued her massage of
my back which started on the dance floor and was more into touch legs and the accident carresses of my erection. With a different set of circumstances, I'm sure an hj would have followed. She was ticklish to my attempts to rub her firm stomach and breast bottoms, but had no problem with my dropping my hand around and down her dress slit touching her ass, and side and top of breats into dress. She firmed up when security came near, but after a few minutes she said that we should go and see how i dance again. Good song was on that she liked and I figured great! This time she pulled me further to the back near wall, a little more privacy with all couples on the floor. And there she grinded on me a little hard and more massaging and a lot more eye contact. I opened with the similar questions I had asked Diamond and
Sabrina's answers were more open ended. She got off of work at 2 as well and lived nearby. Great tension in the air and after about 2 songs she said let's get back to the couches. Off to the front TV couches we went, but the looked full when we got about half way.

...and then that was it, two of her friends who were dancers, pulled her over and she squeezed my hand and arm as they talked. Disappointlying they were her ride and she had to leave. She said to
stop by later on in the week and she'd be there at night. But that was it, paid my %15.50 this time and tiped about $14, whatever I had left, she smiled, kissed my cheek and off to the dressing room with her friends.

Talk about halting a train in its tracks. I had my doubts, as she and her two friends were there a little longer chitchatting, but soon they
left at 1am. With not much money left and not too many girls around, I headed for the door for another adventure.

I won't share part two of this night, as it is SC related and I'm sureyou all don't want to hear about hot strippers at the Playpen (great club)!

All in all, I need more visits to CF, as next two were about the same, and probably a quieter night would net more intimate time with girl.

morone
Whew this is long.

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Date: 4/28/2003 8:27pm Name: Whois  Looking (6)
Delete Subject: the other night
I went the other night. It was definately worth it. I spent time with two different women. I must have gotten lucky with my picks or it was just my night because both women were all over me.

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Date: 4/24/2003 11:58pm Name: Whois  Hurricane (123)
Delete Subject: Hot-Looking Gals at CF
I came to this club tonight and surprised to see a lot more girls than guys. This had to be the best night so far this year because there were plenty of good selection of gals who are new and hot-looking. I predict this club is going to get even better next several weeks.

Plan to arrive here at least 8:30pm Thursday thru Saturday.

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Date: 4/24/2003 9:29pm Name: Whois  Ratpack (16)
Delete Subject: sweatshop
CF is a frickin' sweat shop. i could understand if it were a bar and they were trying to induce us to drink,,,,but are they that hard up to sell snapple?

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Date: 4/17/2003 10:30pm Name: Whois  Hurricane (120)
Delete Subject: Re: Air Condition
I visited this club last Tuesday night and noticed they turned down the heat by using electric fans.

I also noticed the best-looking girls come in at 9:30pm Wednesday thru Saturday.

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Date: 4/16/2003 11:20am Name: Whois  Delta (291)
Delete Subject: RE: Air conditioning
The lights are unchanged. It's hot at the bar, on the dance floor and everywhere. Those cheap assholes that run the place, especially the drunk, need to cool the place off.

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Date: 4/15/2003 11:38am Name: Whois  TenFree (695)
Delete Subject: RE: Air Conditioning
The air conditioning has been working (at least in other areas of the club). I think the reason it's so hot in the couch area is because of the heat from the lights, which have been quite bright lately.

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Date: 4/15/2003 9:03am Name: Whois  Delta (290)
Delete Subject: Air conditioning
Has anyone else noticed how hot CF is? Sitting on the leather couches in the heat is really uncomfortable. I left last night early because sweating just isn't that much fun.

Andy, of course, is always drunk, and is useless.

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