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Date: 2/26/2007 6:38pm Name: Whois  estrellaSTAR (New)
Delete Subject: pro's and con's of fred
so i worked at tropical for about three months. the money was real good at first. i was making between 250 and 400 a night. For it being my first time in the adult entertainment business, and having a petite body, i was very impressed. then...slowly and surely...as my clients warned me...i started making less and less money. the worst of times was the third and fourth week of December. There were so many new girls...and so few clients. i was lucky to make 100 bucks a night. sad but true. anyhow...the business picked up after second week in January. a word of advice to new girls: try to work the minimum amount of days possible. going into the club too often is a burn. you will realize that it is the exact same men that go in every night. every now and then you'll run into someone new. but this business get's old fast.
<br> after three months at tropical i left to starlight. starlight operates completely differently. and yes, you can drink and smoke inside...which helps the clock run. the tips are bigger and it's a way cleaner place. the difference is that it is waAAAaaY slower. i was dancing about twice per night, but getting tips over $100.00 so it was worth it. you could order food and it was delivered to you there. i quit because i could no longer go in from thursday-monday...it was too much. but by far...this has been the best, most comforting place for me as a hostess dancer.
<br> so now i am at club fantasy. management is pretty good too! anything is better than tropical LoL. you get paid here!! the down part is that you have to work two weekend nights per week and one week night. i know girls! you can't wait to spend that money that you made the previous night...but in theory it's good. your making money vs. spending it. the tips are decent. but i was making more on average at tropical and starlight. my nights here range from $125-280. Andy the owner...clocks girls in. pretty nice guy.

<br> so to sum it up...tropical is good for the money...but it's the dirtiest of the places...fred it a B!tCH but what the hell. he never paid me. the place smells like sex...and iuhhh...put up with it. oh and insider...i once walked in on Jose (the manager) having sex with a hostess ;)...curly hair...tall...from mexico...sits in the corner...anyhow
<br>starlight is the best...and the clients you get there are the best as well. just connie is annoying. they play favorites but learn to play the game.
<br>club fantasy...is second to starlight. give it a try!

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Date: 12/20/2006 9:57pm Name: Whois  the_jackal (New)
Delete Subject: Tropical Club
Overall, I think it is a good club. Quite a few of the girls are not that great, but a few of them are pretty decent. They were mostly latinas. The dancing stage is quite well lit, and most of the songs were slow romantic as well as some fast numbers. Overall the music was quite good. I was quite happy with the service that I got. I would say that with a little tipping, you can get good mileage. Unfortunately, the girl I was dancing hardly spoke any english and I am nil in spanish. But I had a nice relaxing time. What surprised me that it looked like a really slow moving day for the girls. There must have been like 30 girls and 15 men, and ~~10 of them on the outside. So, you could have had your pick of girls.

It was my first time at this club, and since i havent been around much HC, it may have shown. The cashier asked me if it was my first time at this club and I said yes. I think I got ripped off because of this. The rate is 27/hr, but I was told that being a 1st timer, I needed a $60 deposit, and also that there was a compulsory $10 drink required for every dance. Hence, I ended up shelling out $20bucks more for the drinks for the 2 dances that I took.

As mentioned, there was the no cell phones rule along with pockets frisking, which I dunno why but didnt really bother me..and btw, I definitely dont look the gangbanger types.

Overall, I would give this club a 7/10.

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Date: 2/7/2006 11:58pm Name: Whois  TenFree Z-VIP Member (1087)
Delete Subject: RE: Next Time
The title of the thread is "Tropical Club." What part of that needs to be "more clear?"

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Date: 2/6/2006 7:08pm Name: Whois  JamHammer (2)
Delete Subject: Next time
Well, make it a bit more clear and I will. You should be glad anyone at all posted in this place. If it weren't for people like you, always trying to control and correct, people would actually come and post. I won't be back...

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Date: 1/23/2006 10:26am Name: Whois  TenFree Z-VIP Member (1085)
Delete Subject: RE: Club Fantasy
Next time, please post your review(s) in the appropriate section.

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Date: 1/22/2006 3:30pm Name: Whois  JamHammer (1)
Delete Subject: Club Fantasy
This place was clean and slow. The girls, most of them, were smokin' hot and looked like they were a little bored. A few of the latinas were so busy they didn't even have time to pee. I was very impressed with quality with two esceptions. The two caucasion girls were so condecending and rude I am amazed they get any play at all...If I wanted to be with a rude bitch I would have stayed married. Overall, Club fantasy was freat and I got a quick HJ from a smokin' hot Latina in the corner. I'll go back!

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Date: 1/22/2006 3:27pm Name: Whois  JamHammer (New)
Delete Subject: Tropical Club
Let me start by saying this. What a bunch of sluggs working in this place. I found my self looking at about twelve chubby, bored and old latinas. I love the brown skin but this was nasty. No one dancing, couching or otherwise engaged. A complete waste of time. Whoever said that this was a place if you were looking for a quickie was wrong...

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Date: 1/5/2006 4:05pm Name: Whois  Delta Z-VIP Member (1681)
Delete Subject: Hostesses
Congratulations on getting out before you got in. The hostess business is just sex work. If you don't want to be a sex worker (and who does), you shouldn't be working as a hostess dancer.

But, coincidentally, you stumbled upon the most dangerous employer in town. Fred will do anything at your expense to make money. He has a record of not paying girls for weeks and being physical with them (as you experienced).

This business sucks and you should stay a mile away from it . . . maybe, instead, interview other girls and write a book on your and their experiences.

I'll watch C-Span2 for the start of your book tour

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Date: 1/4/2006 12:42pm Name: Whois  PrettyGirl (New)
Delete Subject: Hostesses
I worked for the Tropical Club for about three weeks. I ran into a financial rut trying to pay off my student loans when I answered an ad in the LA times for a "waitress." Having previously been a waitress in undergraduate school, I went in to apply. Fred never showed me the upstairs and hired me immediatly. I was very skeptical especially after he told me to show up in sweats and bring a mini skirt, top, and heels. I was curious and desperate for the money so I showed up. The second I discovered what it was, I took off and the security blocked the door. I agreed to stay for the evening, but I made rules. No physical contact other than the dancing and no kissing. Everything went well the first night and all I did all night was have conversations with the customers and I made $400 in cash. I thought I was made, different from the other girls. I thought I could avoid the guys advances and they would keep paying. Pretty soon the guys started getting rough and trying to grab me. I would resist and get security but they were no help. I threatened to quit in order to get the security to do anything. Also, Fred began saying rude things to me, and made a sexual advance towards me once. He treated me better than the other girls though because I appeared to be a hot ticket item for him. I was always busy, and I did meet a few nice guys who never touched me, but I had to fight off most of the guys. It is a really sleazy place and guys if you are looking for a quickie, that is the place to go. The security turns their heads. I quit a couple of weeks ago, and even though I miss the money, it's not worth your pride or self-worth. Fred banks on the insecurities of the girls and their desperation, but girls there is another way. Don't be Fred's statistic any longer.

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Date: 10/31/2003 11:43am Name: Whois  bruin_tv_vcr (New)
Delete Subject: Hello, lirpa
Hi, lirpa.

Could you please send me e-mail.
I have questions I would like to ask.
Sorry for the trouble.

Thank you very much.

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Date: 10/6/2003 9:49am Name: Whois  TenFree (798)
Delete Subject: RE: Alicia
I heard the "tall" Alicia quit CF nearly two months ago. I've been there several times since then and haven't seen her.

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Date: 10/6/2003 8:22am Name: Whois  Delta (551)
Delete Subject: Alicia
Alicia, formerly of Tropical, can't work at Tropical anymore. Fred fired her because she asked to be paid on time.

She works at CF, but generally arrives after 10:00 p.m. weeknights.

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Date: 10/5/2003 3:02pm Name: Whois  lakid (New)
Delete Subject: April of Tropical and Alicia
Are april of Tropical and "tall" Alicia of CF
the same person? Does she still work at Tropical
or CF? Any info is appreciated. Thank you.

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Date: 9/10/2003 4:57pm Name: Whois  TenFree (778)
Delete Subject: RE: Fred is a Lunatic!
With commentary like that, who needs customer critiques?

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Date: 9/10/2003 2:35pm Name: Whois  luscious (1)
Delete Subject: One more thing
Your DJ sucks assssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!
Who want's to listen to your mexican CD w/ 14 songs on it for 2 hours in a row. Aren't DJ's asposed to mix the music up? oh wait a minute.... I forgot... you don't have a DJ cause you can't afford one that's why alex changes the CD's (you get from the 99 cent store) every two hours. Thank God 4 Club Starlight & Fantasy. Gee Freddy I wonder why they have over 80 girls a nite & they never have to call a single girl to come in, (could it be because the management treats them right?) Gee it must be.Asshole Fred... Have a vvhhery nice day!,His favorite line after he
b!tched at me to come in to his sh*thole club or threaten to fire me? ya right I quit!

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Date: 9/10/2003 2:22pm Name: Whois  luscious (New)
Delete Subject: Fred is a Lunatic!
Fred is psychooooo he treats us Hostess ladies more like his slaves. He bangs on the door if your in the bathroom or dressing room for more than 5 minutes he'll yell from the other side while banging on the door & say, "Hahrrrrie up!Vvhat are you doing khome out now!!!!!!!!!!!!"(sorry but that is what it sounds like with his horrible accent).Sorry asshole Freddy but it takes more than 5 minutes to take a sh*t and wipe our fine ass behinds! He has checks dated 2 weeks behind to try to get us hostesses 2 come back. He is full of Bull Shit! Hey psycho Freedy my friends and I have already stopped sooooo many girls from even working at your club. Hope you go out of business soon no more 4 U Fred! I'm sure you will especially if you get some Lawsuits thrown your way, like for grabbing my arm from trying to leave your shithole club having your damn wanna-be security gaurding the door so I can't leave & not paying me for the hours I worked and threatening me and my friends!F*ck this club! everything that has been written about your club is oh so true!

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Date: 9/9/2003 5:17pm Name: Whois  TenFree (777)
Delete Subject: RE: Commentary
What Fred needs to do is give the women a reason to want to come to work instead of trying to motivate them through fear. I understand that he's concerned about them hanging out in the bathroom too long, doing drugs, etc.; but that goes on in every club.

He could go a long way toward solving that problem by doing away with the overly restrictive rules that alienate hostesses and customers alike. If he created a more pleasant environment to work at, he wouldn't have to be constantly hounding the women to come in to work, turnover would be lower and more women would want to work there (meaning there would be more customers also).

IMO he should have given Sleepy more of a free rein in running the club. He managed Dreamland before it got wild and later Flamingo and never had any problems with LE, which is one of the things I think Fred is paranoid about, and I'm sure he could have done the same thing at Tropical if only he had been given the lattitude.

As a physical facility, Tropical beats the pants off all the other remaining clubs, but it will never realize its potential unless Fred changes his ways. I'm not holding my breath.

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Date: 9/7/2003 1:25pm Name: Whois  Delta (487)
Delete Subject: RE: Recent Visit
Gosh Hurricane, we've both been banned from Fred's Club.

One night a girl complained to me that Fred had not paid her in 3 weeks. Fred's excuse was "How can I be sure you will come next week if I pay you now." Fred apparently likes to get behind in salary payments to make sure the girls come back.

I told Fred to pay her or I would represent her as her attorney. He went back to his office, wrote her a check, threw me out and fired the hostess. She now works at CF.

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Date: 9/4/2003 5:09pm Name: Whois  TenFree (772)
Delete Subject: RE: Recent Visits
Why would it matter if you're banned from the club? From what the previous poster wrote, it sounds like nothing has changed. Even if Fred did hire some good looking girls I bet they wouldn't last long.

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Date: 9/4/2003 3:29pm Name: Whois  dulcepage (New)
Delete Subject: Tropical Club Employee
I worked at this club for 2 and a half days... On the third day, after being man handled by one of the guys... he was grabbing my arms and ass hard just to hear me say "stop that, you're hurting me" and "no" so he could laugh at me. And after suggesting prostitutiong to me, I quit the job and tried to leave the club. The owner, Fred would not let me leave. They blocked the exit and threatened to lock the door. Once they realized I was going to make a scene, they let me leave. This was a rather terrifying experience...

As far as the whole paycheck thing... that is true... he wouldnt pay me for my time there... insisting i had to first make him more money. This club is bunk... if anyone wants to sue this guy.... I'll testify.

Candy

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Date: 3/26/2003 6:18pm Name: Whois  ex-hostess (1)
Delete Subject: Warning to girls looking for work: Fred the owner will treat you like sh!t
Let me just say that I know first hand how Fred treats the girls because I worked here for more than 2 months. I have no idea why I stayed for so long and put up with so much crap.
I agree w/ Delta and his comment to Hurricane. I enjoy reading your posts Hurricane.
let me start off by telling any girls looking for work that if you come upon this site read my post, and if you see an ad in the LA times under gals, with the phone # 1(213)744-0477 don't call it, because Fred the owner will treat you like
sh!t. He calls the girls everyday asking what time are you coming in? If you are unable to come in that certain day prepare to get yelled at and argue w/ Fred for a good half hour on the phone, which will then ruin the rest of your day because your so pissed off. Too Fred any reason for not being able to come in to him isn't good enough. It came to a point where he didn't care that I didn't have enough time for my studys, and argued w/ me to come into work or be taken off payroll. Fred's payroll? what a joke. I worked one week 6 days clocked in all hours, and received peanuts for a paycheck. When I confronted him w/ why he's giving me less than (1) Hundred for a paycheck, he said you make money w/ your tips. And not everyday is good, there's good ones and bad ones. Although he told me in the begining that I will be paid hourly, what a lie. Fred lies to get girls to stay and make them believe that there checks will get bigger. He even takes the girls personal cell phones away when they first get to work.
If you notice girls are only allowed in the bathroom and dressing room one at a time, Fred says that it's for safety reasons, yah right what are the girls going to do that's so dangerous ,share each others lipstick, brush, or is he worried about them talking about him, and the way he doesn't know how to treat ladies or pay them right. He especially doesn't want new girls to know anything that's why there's hardly any talking going on between girls on the couches. Just about every guy that clocked me in would talk bad about Fred. One customer told me how it was a big mistake giving Fred his business card, he told me that Fred won't stop calling him and how annoying he is. Alex is one of the security guys, and he's a good guy who does his job. He's probably the only one that gets payed well by Fred. Fred curses at the girls, he even once said on the phone to me ," I don't give a f*ck about the girls that work in my club." He even told me that he has 500 girls he can call to replace me, yah 500 girls that once worked for you at some point and haven't returned, and if you do call them I'm sure they'll hang up on you. It came out during an argument on the phone w/ him. He's a terrible owner and a disrespectful man who I never want to see again for as long as I live. The stuff in my locker, if your reading this Fred (the truth about you and how you treat ladies)just toss it Fred because I never want to step foot on your property again. And for the girls looking for work, there are soooo many other good clubs which you will be treated with respect and receive good paychecks. At any cause don't waste your time in this one or let Fred make any off of you being clocked in.
TO FRED:One more thing I know about that one girl who's your rat I won't mention any names or numbers you know who & I knew all along. I'm not stupid you think that all girls are dumb and alot of them are way smarter than you.

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Date: 3/25/2003 10:34am Name: Whois  Delta (279)
Delete Subject: Last Comment
Hurricane, there is no need to apologize if you are being truthful about Fred's bad behavior.

My experience with Fred is that he violates the Labor Code routinely. He refuses to pay girls for amounts they have earned. He delays payment to coerce additional services.

Fred survives only becase he owns the building in which he operates. Girls and other staff work there as a last resort. For those reasons, Fred suffers the highest turnover downtown of both employees and customers.

I suppose the marketplace eventually punishes such behavior.

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Date: 11/20/2002 4:03pm Name: Whois  lirpa (New)
Delete Subject: typo
In regard to the message posted 5/4/2002 7:26pm reviewing the girls at the club I'd like to clear up the matter that AS does not allow intimate contact. Just good intellectual conversation. Here's the typo:
"April #AS: She's a new gal in the club. I find her to be very attractive, caucasian lady that I have a pleasure to meet. Her height 5ft-10in is what bothers me while dancing with her. I'm only 5ft-8in tall. She does allow you to have intimate contact with her. Otherwise, I enjoy having intelligent conversation with her on the couch. She is currently a student at USC." Doesn't was meant to be written.

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Date: 8/13/2002 11:14am Name: Whois  21499
Delete Subject: hot thick girls?
Does anyone know of thick girls (big ass) that can hold a good conversation as well? Any names or #'s

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Date: 8/13/2002 12:24am Name: Whois  david2001
Delete Subject: so friendly, after only one session?
After only ONE HOUR with her, you think she's agreeable to ALL this? I think you're getting ahead of yourself.


> I was interested to hang out with her since she seems to be submissive to my ideas to go dating with me such as spending the night at Big Bear Lake, Sequoia National Park and Grand Canyon in Arizona, etc. After spending an hour,
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Date: 7/29/2002 5:24pm Name: Whois  Raja
Delete Subject: Support Staff
Don’t know the VIP staff by name but I do want the Asian Girl who used to waitress at SHL. Give her longer legs and an ass,, oh well.

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Date: 7/29/2002 8:20am Name: Whois  TenFree
Delete Subject: RE: exceptional men
What about Scotty at VIP?

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Date: 7/28/2002 3:55pm Name: Whois  Raja
Delete Subject: exceptional men
The exceptions: Phil, Kirk, Sleepy, Alan,. anyone else?

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Date: 7/28/2002 12:40am Name: Whois  david2001
Delete Subject: sleazemongers work at clubs
Unfortunately, the vast majority of men working at these clubs (owners, managers, security, cashiers) are sleazy, unethical, rude assholes. Few exceptions. That's just the nature of the HC beast.

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Date: 7/26/2002 11:05am Name: Whois  Delta
Delete Subject: Tropical serves a purpose
Maybe so, but the way he treats Sleepy is insulting. Sleepy works 12 hour shifts, often being the waitress too. Fred hired Sleepy for Sleepy's ability to bring in me and other good cusotmers (probably like you), but Fred's behavior has prevented Sleepy from being able to do so.

I tried to keep going there, but eventually Fred banned me from the club after I represented several of the girls in a labor action to force Fred to pay salaries on time. Fred usually tells girls their checks are being held because the girl was late or needs to work another week to assure Fred she is going to stay, etc. The girls eventually leave being owed several weeks of pay that they never receive.

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Date: 7/25/2002 7:23pm Name: Whois  since1970
Delete Subject: Tropical serves a purpose
It seems to me that Tropical is great to have in the system. Fred spends money on advertising, gets some pretty attractive girls, but treats them so badly that they leave after 2-3 days tops. But in the mean time, they have learned about LAG and CF, and they move on to one of them. Without Fred, these women may not have gotten into the sytem. The place is attractive, and I think some girls that would get turned off by their first impressions of LAG or CF might think it would not be so bad, and get into it.

But Fred is an idiot, treats Sleepy like shit, it a lousy host and talks trash to the girls in front of the customers. All-in-all a waste of time except that it is free to get in and if you catch a girl on her first night before Fred has had a chance to piss her off, there is some fun to be had.

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Date: 7/15/2002 9:09am Name: Whois  TenFree
Delete Subject: RE: Tropical Club review
uncle_meat, don't be so quick to assume that the girl was put off by your age. Remember, the main thing that motivates them is .

Secondly, forget about Tropical Club. There is almost no opportunity for action there. As far as getting mileage, read the FAQ if you haven't already done so and see my comments to whoremonger on the Club Fantasy thread.

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Date: 7/14/2002 1:16am Name: Whois  uncle_meat
Delete Subject: Tropical Club review
Visited toward the end of the business day recently - my first visit to a hostess club. Odd feel to the room; women sitting on one side looking bored, and men, mainly Mexican, sitting opposite, looking at the women.

Anyway, I engaged one, and we went to sit in the TV area. Pleasant conversation, though no mileage. Slightly plump, but voluptuous girl in early 20s, who's led a rough life. So, on to the next.

A very young hispanic girl was the stuff fantasies are made of. Unfortunately, that's what it will be. No action, just a little dancing and sitting to talk. I think my age (46) must have brought out the shy youngster in her. Too bad.

All in all, I'm not sure whether I'll be trying hostess clubs again. Maybe. But it isn't clear enough to me how to either get the mileage, or make a contact to see one on the outside. Maybe it just will take the right chemistry on a future visit.

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Date: 5/1/2002 4:08am Name: Whois  Raja
Delete Subject: ID
Generally clubbers refer to the ID as the clock number. Back when I was checking out Tropical for a review I notice the use of initials instaed of clock numbers. Fred/Frank or whoever he is would get all serious an take about 5 minutes before deciding what number or initial to assign to a girl. At all the other clubs they just recycle previously used clock numbers.

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Date: 4/30/2002 3:12pm Name: Whois  TenFree
Delete Subject:
" "ID" stands for identification."

Yes, I figured that part out, it was the "AS" part I didn't get. I know that some clubs assign girls letters instead of numbers, but I've never heard of them assigning initials.

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Date: 4/30/2002 12:06pm Name: Whois  TenFree
Delete Subject:
Look in the HC Forum under the "New HC Club" thread.

"ID is "AS."" Would you care to translate that?

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Date: 4/29/2002 3:49pm Name: Whois  TenFree
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Most of the Tropical girls are not Fantasy or Starlight quality. With the recent closure of clubs in COI, about their only alternatives left are LAG, VIP, and Smokey's (the latter two not for much longer, perhaps).

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Date: 3/2/2002 12:20am Name: Whois  david2001
Delete Subject: So why don't they go elsewhere?
If the girls are so unhappy, why don't they move to another club? If they're not willing to change clubs, then they shouldn't complain.

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Date: 3/1/2002 10:32am Name: Whois  Delta
Delete Subject: Asshole manager
I agree with the last post. The Manager withholds girls checks for weeks, trying to get sex or more performance out of them. The girls complain regularly to me about him. The Club also adds a large charge to credit-card tips. Reminds me of the gouging at Club Starlight. I won't go back to either for a while.

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