Damn that's a lot of clubbing considering your night started at 10. Great report! Patadise is not the best when it comes to younger slim things but packs a hell of a punch!

Freaker said: Are you guys talking about Kendra - hot pretty big natural tits skinny girl?  Works at TL (Charms BFF), Sahara and sometimes Synn?  Stickyicky - seriously?  I hope you know better than to take THAT Kendra to the VIP, my friend.  At any price. Sahara, and TL? Ive been to both but never seen her there. You know what name she uses at these locations. I only danced with Kendra once and that was when she was attached to Honey hip. I got a dance with Honey first and she immediately asked for a tip, then i got a dance with Kendra and she used the same line as Honey. Monga said she dosent ask for a tip now so Honey's influence must have worn off. Ive only done one VIP's at Synn not enough time and the entry price is to high. I may try on one of the discounted days but there are others who are on my hit list that rank higher than Kendra.    You also mentiond Charmz..have not seen her on the RC lately for Tropica Lei, but damn you bought back some good memories. She is definetely #1 on my ATF list. 

ya i am always indecisive etc!! butt for sure i will prolly most likely work monarch tomorrow (thurs nyt) and friday-sat?? idk cuz i also go to KO...hummm!~ Keep us posted. Went to a club yesterday and it was a major fail so I still got a days worth of clubbing to spend this Friday or Sat! I'm cutting back for the summer but got room for exceptions and based on your pics and Zbone participation you fit that exception. Well have fun!

Monga Akbar said:I have danced with Kendra on 2 for $20 more than once  and last week was my first VIP with her. That's good to hear. Maybe w/ Honey out the picture she changed her ways. I will give another try. I'm not really digging that redish orange hair thing she is trying but that body is still banging.

I don't mind giving a tip of the experience warrants it. Just don't ask for it either at the beginning or the end because it kills the mood or I will not tip out of spite. Tipping should be natural and if I get a lot of dances in a row then you likely won't get a tip, but you got a loyal client who you know will be money next time you see me. At Synn the only ones who asked for tips where Kendra and Honey so as a result I only danced with them once. But the others there don't ask but I do tip as a result of the awesome time we had during our dance. Nothing large maybe the cost of a drink at most. BTW I rarely buy a girl a drink, I must really enjoy their company I order to do so. At Paradise the tip game is a little different as it often during a conversation I try not to get involved with while I am at a club, especially if I'm not in VIP. I tried Monarchs and while the three dances I got there was no issue regarding a tip until I met Priya?? The Indian dancer, now this girl embodies every thing negative about some one starving for a tip. Nice girl to chat with leading up to the dance then it's all downhill after you commit to getting a dance and step into the area.

Yeah I have encountered Sativa before almost a while ago and she was still claiming 20 at that time and i flat out told her bullshit!! I did not get a dance because she had to take a "smoke break" and came back all loopy and breath stanking. I think it was the PL Nwo4life who posted a severe warning about this chick a while ago. Freaker, you have to admit that it can be a little interesting when you encouter something new at a club you have been visiting for a while. BTW...stay away from PRIYA at Monarchs. All talk. no action. and once you get a dance every word out of her mouth is an upsell! Leading me to think she is a rob!

They may be working their way east on Valley. Paradise is probally next on their radar. They get girls for something a dumb as touching themselves on stage and turn it into a full raid looking for a guy to get caught with their pants down!

Nice pick-up! Malichai- just be aware that many, not all, who are reading this may be married or in commited relationships and have been out of the pick-up scene for a while or, and I hate to say it, so jaded by their SC experiences that they don't realize some men are able and still use non SC social settings to meet and hook up. There are also haters out there who will never give any one credit! This post was edited by Stickyicky at May 20, 2013 8:49 AM PDT

Sal- thanks for the pass! Maybe ill be out that way sooner than later.

LouAss and Lopaw, thanks for the recommendation. I just done see myself making an effort to visit any club in the SouthBay but if I happen to be in the areas with time to kill I will try Baygirls and Rio.

Is this club any body's favorite? It's to far for me to visit but it seems that the only info i get regarding this place is high prices, snobby mediocre looking dancers and rude management. Is this the only club Dan the Man Visits? Sounds like the South Bay Area is not the spot for me!

Damn I hope she is just taking a little vacation! Lately i I I haven't been going to SJP that often but that would be a major blow to their day shift crew! They haven't post RC that consistently over the past several months either so maybe she is there and we just don't know it!

I've only been to VIP a few times and I either gotten lucky and ran into Cassandra, got fuckoed by another PL chit chatting and creep rubbing Cami for an hour, or had Maddux post about how she was coming in to make memories and never show because the tire on her bike was flat, an epic dust storm hit NOHO and blinded her for three days, or some other bullshit story she makes to cover up her flakiness! But the only consistent thing I ran into was Caramel and her promoting how all the guys come to see her because she delivers. For some reason my guy told me otherwise and I always passed. Those who try and sell too hard upfront I usually don't bite because they either ask for a stupid tip or get upset when you don't go straight to VIP. They know who the regular strip club goers are don't mind risking pissing off the new people thinking that it is their only chance to rob them. That's why they ask where you are from, first time here, and how often you visit clubs? It to feel you out more than small talk because if you live far, or don't seem like a potential repeat then they don't feel like they are risking much by robbing you. Thanks for the trip review, the same goes for SRR and the DJ manipulating songs and cutting them short as soon as a special is announced. Honestly a lot of clubs do that but not as blatant and SRR, and I guess add VIP to the list.

Tatiana-Tropical Lei Charmz-Tropical Lei Toni-Strip Joint Pomona Sativa-Paradise Sasha-Shahara Theater. No particular order. This post was edited by Stickyicky at November 12, 2012 3:09 PM PST

Nice review and thanks for pointing out their shitty light situation. There is no point going to the stage just to sit in a black hole! Lets see if they fix it, but I am impressed that a while ago they got rid of the barrier that prevented you from even sitting close to the stage. Imagine what that was like with the shitty lining. But I must admit the ownership and management invested a lot of time and money to improve this place and you can see it!

It will be interesting to see where "Airmella" lands that bigg booty of hers when DVO closes! Will she remain part of the Deja Vu family and take her "talent" to COI? Or will she stay local to the IE and join BNL or SJP? Don't think she can make the cut at the Rhino chains. In any case this board has been helpful in spreading the word about her antics.

So you mean to tell me none of y'all tried to slip at least a thumb in the buthole when hitting it from the back!?!? That's disgusting? Well try it and see how disgusting it is when your girl moans out the pleasure. Not saying do it at the club because most girls don't want you finger bangin them let alone stick your finger up their butts. That's a good way to get slapped!

LakerFan03 said:Naw the real question is where can you find a Samoan dancer? I met a Samoan dancer at Sahara's in Anaheim about a month or two ago.nice girl and she said she was new to the Strip scene but her LD sucked so bad I don't think she was going to last that long! Don't know her name but you will notice her if she is still there. Wasn't built like a traditional Samoan girl but had the height and a lot of tattoos. Think she said she was Long Beach! Go figure.

Mystique at Tropical Lei is 100% Indian.At least that what she advertised. I haven't been there in a while so not sure if she is still there but all I remember was how shapely her ass was and when you touched it ( yeah she allows it) it was surprisingly soft like a marshmallow! This post was edited by Stickyicky at September 26, 2012 1:42 AM PDT

weegato said:I was wearing a new white dress shirt. Had a lap dance, I didn't notice until I left that the dancer must have been wearing some kind of self tanner, because I was covered from my belt to my collar in this orangish brown stain. I had to throw the shirt away and tell the SO that a pen broke in the pocket. I agree. This ha happened to me twice. Damn wrenches who put on that self tanner or get spray tanned before going to the club. They have to know that it will rub off on the customers but just don't give a damn. How about you time your spay tans better or leave the self tanner until after your shift when you can let it dry! Unfortunately we don't notice until we leave either. I often go during my lunch breaks in the afternoon and have to be aware of this happening.

Sal- I have no problem giving an honest report. I also think Cassandra is unfairly being singled out on this site because she actually participates in forum post and is willing to go back and forth with other members. Not just posting the times shell be at the club. From what I gather from her post she is not overly aggressive or chasing every dollar that walks into the club. But she's willing to shake that amazing looking ass for our enjoyment and isn't going to bullshit you into thinking that your going to get anything more than a solid hard on during her dances. I see it happen all the time at the club when a guy immediately starts to rub up on a girl when she approaches them or starts talkin dirty asking for "favors". A lot of girls will give into it and play along to get that dance. But all to often those same guys get upset when they get just as much action in the back as they did when the girl first approached them in the open.

No I haven't hooked up with Cassandra. I was just speaking in general terms. What I was trying to say is if I get an air dance I wouldn't call the dancer a rob. It probabaly won't go past one topless or nude dance either. To me it means that the dancer and I don't have any chemistry so I'll politely stop it after one dance and move on.now if I was enticed to take advantage of a VIP and got an air dance I don't have any problem calling a girl out if she ROBed me. But my formula usually works where I don't have this problem. Some guys think a $10 dance is meant to offer full service, I see it as a preview to either buy more or leave it alone. Know Cassandra is my type and when I make it to the Valley hopefully she is working.but I live by the motto YMMV so either a good dance or bad dance is built on chemistry.

I think this is lame. If Cassandra gives you an air dance it's probably because you either look wack,acted wack, or smelled wack and deserved one! When I get an air dance I dont cry about it. I'm not a bad looking or disrespectful dude, but I am also not foolish enough to think that every woman is attracted to me or sometimes i loose the stripper lottery and get a wack dancer, and I may get an air dance every now and then. I dont cry about it, I just move on to the next one. That's the good thing about a club, selection! I'm not attracted to every woman in the club, and I can say no. Unfortunately the dancers can't always say no because that will hurt their cash flow. But sometimes I read PL responses and they think when a girl ask them for a dance they are entitled to do what ever they want. There are some FS or UHM cheap options out there, but guess what, most of the time PL's get a tamed, but fun, dance that may or may not include some ass grabbing or some titty rubbing. But just because you don't jizz in your pants or the girl doesn't give you a mic check or offer FS for free it doesn't mean you have to come on here and slam them. It means they didn't like you enough or you didn't turn them on enough to bring that out of them. I could keep going but will end it here. But remember just like the real world, a hot girl ain't going to give it to you if you have no game, can't dress, stink, or are way to fat and The money you pay in a strip club can only get you so far. There are exceptions but I'll let the whores be whores in the strip club or out. I'll also let some of the UHM queens alone because I wouldn't mess with most of them for free let alone pay for it!

I never had that good of time at Paradise. Those booths do get a lot of mileage, I can only imagine what the VIP room experience will be like. Just haven't found the one to take back. Was there two weekends ago met a thick Latina named Lana??? But she didn't speak English. It's a shame because I couldn't take the risk of not clearly understanding the prices and setting expectations.

The best dances come when the girl is genuily into you. But either the girl is into you or not. Can't "coach" her to be attracted to you. Now there are some professionals who care about your repeat business and enjoy what they do, but even the luster falls off after awhile because you tend to start sensing the mechanical side of their dance. My advice is to find a girl who is attracted to you and stick and move. That way she gets just as excited when she sees you and the routine feels fresh. Can't coach emotions and what you really want is for the girl to enjoy her time on your lap as much as you do. The point where it feels like a transaction is the point where you realize it's time to move on to the next one! Keep it fresh and sticky!

That's a damn good question. My first instinct would be no. But the perfect mix would be at a low mileage spot..meaning its not know for the out of ordinary experience and the high mileage girls that do work there aren't ones I am normally attracted to and have to give high mileage to make money. I would have to see the girl walk in start her shift and be the first to grab her before any other PL got a hold of her in VIP. Knowing her and already established a good vibe in previous dances also counts cause then I know she is just also attracted to me and not just cramming her snatch in my face like its part of her daily routine. Having said that I would probally go at it like Bro Sal said all night long cause just like a girl like to suck a good dick I will go to town in some bomb pussy!

@danthaman -I don't know where you live exactly, but I stay in the IE and there is a lot of diversity. In some areas of the IE, much like the rest of So Cal ,the predominant race is hipanic. I know a lot of white women who date Latinos and they don't have to act black to get them either. Like I mentioned before, the clubs out here are filled with mostly Latino PL's. When the strippers complain about the ones who are touchy feely they never refer to them as "gardners","mexicans", or "wetbacks" but only call them perverts or horn dogs. Believe it or not, a good percentage of the time when they point these "perverts" out they are referring to a white guy who looks over the age of 55! These guys are called "pervs". But the other truth is that the other majority of perverts are the ones who come from across the border, don't speak english and get called "dirty wetback". And there have been many times at the SC where the girls ignore a group of black guys because they are "ghetto". Not saying the derogatory terms are right, but just like other terms of negative connotations they have been incorporated into everyday language. In my opinion dosent mean that a person is racist. U Don't have to agree with me, but a group of black guys being loud drawing unnecessary attention to themselves or disrespecting a dancer should be called ghetto. I've been to strip clubs in No Cal, Vegas, in the Midwest where a black guy dosent even get a look from a white girl and the latino that fits what you described yourself as gets a lot of play! Nor do they have any problem out here getting any live from a white girl. A lot of Asians get love also. Over at Synn in City of Industry and Spearmint Rhino a lot of girls complain that the Asians only get dances from white girls with blonde hair so sure enough who do you think they flock to when they are in a club. They only see green so any other color would impact their pockets. As I read more of your post I am getting the impression that you realized the clubs you visit or the particular girls you have been chasing may be the problem and are now turning this topic/board into a race relations issue between one minority, blacks, and how they are perceived or accepted in american society in comparison to other minorities. That is fine and I appreciate a good debate about these sort of issues. You have brought many things to my attention that I haven't thought of and don't view your opinion as racist but rather what it is, your personal observation supported by specific evidence. But this site is for dancers,pls, and clubs to interact with eachother, promote their business as a club or as a dancer and socially network as many don't do it in person when visiting the clubs. With the latter not being that uncommon. Just look at twitter and Facebook where people talk to a person they may hawks never met in another state but can't even break bread with their next door neighbor. I wish you luck finding you a white girl but if I only limited myself to wanting to date one race I would have missed out on all the experiences I had dating women of all races and cultural backgrounds that made me whom I am today and greater appreciation towards what this world has to offer.

@Danthaman- you need to come to the IE bro! If you are racist towards Mexicans out here you will be without a job. With that being said, most compliants I hear from dancers are about Hispanics who don't speak English, come in without showering and expect a UHM dance for $20. But believe it or not I have seen some UHM girls offer their services. Most of the strippers complain about the UHM girls who do it for dirt cheap than the customer because when they try to set their boundaries with the guy they refer back to the UHM dancer. then they just end up avoiding those guys all together. I've also seen them grope the ladies as soon as they walk over. But the dancers don't put a stereotype on all Latinos just refer to them as perverts. They also know Jo to handle them by telling them what the rules are and how much for a dance and no 5 for 1 specials that they commonly ask for. I also applaud the dancers out here because since the majority of customers are Latinos they don't stereotype and just learn how to desk with it. Out here the problem is that if you go to a club overdressed I be been told it intimidates a lot of dancers.

Ronin-I agree with your comments and in those cases or similar then so be it.

I'm not saying that chatting with a clinet is a bad thing. I know the girls notice when the crowd has new faces so all I ask is that you politely excuse your self from the conversation or massage to check in with the new customers. Here are some possible outcomes 1) the pl you are with will want to keep you and get another dance, 2) you may run into someone like me who wants to get a dance and rarely visits your spot, 3) You make your rounds and end up back with your club boyfriend and at least you know the others weren't interested at that time and you did not miss out on a sitting opportunity. The last one I hate mentioning is you meet another fuckoe as Manual puts it that wants to sit talk and rub like the fuckoe you just left! But hey it's not perfect. cassandra- your looks and body is all the game you need. But closed mouths don't get fed. I understand that you may get anxiety, but the truth is saying more than "wanna dance" can simply mean saying "hello I'm Cassandra, your name is? If the guy wants to talk hell expand. Guys still got to have game as well! Just make sure they dont turn it into a conversation only and keep guys like me waitng. The ones who don't expand will want a dance because of your looks and body, those who don't expand on the converation and decline your offer to dance because they are looking for something else at the time. A pl doesn't complain when they get asked multiple times by a girl for a dance, they complain when they decline a girl when they just walk in and the girl never comes back or a girl never approaches them at all and they don't smell or look that bad for that matter:)!

My pet peeve is VIP / Strip Club boyfriends and massage guy who makes me wait way too long for a dancer because they are too busy working their mouths or hands in attempt to occupy their ATF!s time. Since no other PL has brought it up so far I think there are a few on this board who may get offended. These are PL's who want to sit and talk with the dancers for 30 mins take them back to VIP or get a few normal dances and then come back to sit and talk to the dancer for another 30 mins about who knows what again and then after about another 30mins leave. I visit a lot during the day and understand it gets slow, but ladies need to learn how to stick in move especially when they see someone unfamiliar because they may be able to add another to their client list. Most of the time the guy doing the talking is some older guy who has more time to kill. I understand the importance of customer service and showing interest in your customer but I know a new guy walking in may be another dance VIP etc. so I often ask the girl if they want to mAke their rounds and come back to see me for another dance later or if they get some downtime. Sometimes they come back right away, or not at all. But if my intentions was not to get another dance in the immediate future, there is no point in monopolizing their time with my petty conversations or compliments. Not to say the girl should just give me the "wanna dance" line because the majority of times I will say no unless you got the ass of the year or it's a busy night shift a know u don't have time to chit chat. What I am sayin in this long drawn out comment is that PL's new to respect other Pl's by not thinking that when you are in the club the dancer should not circulate beyond your position and the stripper should recognize when a new opportunity is walking in that you should excuse yourself from your VIP boyfriend at least to introduce yourself to a new customer. You may be missing out on more money if you don't.

Never happen to me ! Alot of girls tell me it happens often and they do get pissed when a guy dosent tell them and will clown him in the back when talkin to the others. One time a girl pointed a guy out to me that was still hangin at the club! Needless to say I never sat in that spot again! I can only imagine how the girls feel about it! I do live by the rule that you gotta have dick control!

I agree with NY, just say NO. All to often when you say maybe later the dancer always come back and cuts of the one you want to dance with and have been eye fucking for a while. But since you told them "later" they do all they can to get to you before the more attractive one does and may potentially drain your cash. They just want a piece of the pie before it gets all eaten. Set the expectation with a clear "NO THANK YOU" unless you truly mean maybe later and let them know that you want to check out the scene first. They are big girls and can handle the truth.

I don't mention Zbone to any dancers but the ones who have mentioned it to me don't have the same enthusiasm about the site as those who have took the time to participate as members. They usually say that they gotten unfair reviews because they wouldn't provide FS, don't want to be stalked by an ex boyfriend or a looser PL who can't deal with the reality of a stripper being about the money first and emotions, well not even a consideration. I don't think I would have a problem outing myself to a few on this site at a club I rarely visit or haven't visited at all. But my regular spots I wont bring it up.